Joseph WALLACE

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

There are lots of trees and all have his birth as 1850 West Maitland, NSW. Some trees have his mother as Catherine ROSS and others as Catherine CAVANAGH. Several trees have this as his remarriage.

2nd 9143/1902 WALLACE JOSEPH - MURPHY JOHANNA - GLEBE ??

1903 NSW Electoral Roll - DALLEY - TOXTETH POLLING-PLACE
WALLACE Joseph, 90 Glebe-road, hotelkeeper

1926 NSW Electoral Roll - West Sydney - Blackwattle
WALLACE Joseph, 34 Gottenham street, independent means

Death 8021/1928 WALLACE JOSEPH - WILLIAM - CATHERINE - GLEBE

The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 2 April 1928 p.10
DEATHS
WALLACE.-April 1, 1928, at his son's residence, 34 Gottenham-street, Glebe, Joseph Wallace, beloved father of Edgar and William, aged 77 years.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 2 April 1928 p.9
FUNERALS
WALLACE.-The Relatives and Friends of the late Mr. JOSEPH WALLACE are kindly invited to attend his Funeral, to leave his son's residence, 34 Gottenham-street, Glebe, THIS (Monday) AFTERNOON, at 2 o'clock for Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood, by road. Motor Funeral.
WOOD COFFILL LIMITED, Motor Funeral Directors.

As usual, trying to sort out how much of the info in the trees is correct.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Bap V18503056 35/1850 WALLIS JOSEPH - WILLIAM - CATHERINE

 

[gibbo]

You probably have this already

V18382070 22/1838 WALLACE WILLIAM KAVANAGH CATHERINE CT

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I had not got that far. :biggrin:

Was looking for a remarriage and death for Johanna.

2787/1953 WALLACE JOHANNA WILHELINA 81 YRS NARRAWEE CHATSWOOD

Not in Ryerson or TROVE that I can see.

If Joseph did remarry why is Johanna not in 1903 E/R with him?

Birth 413/1905 WALLACE CORNELIUS L - JOSEPH - JOHANNA - SYDNEY

Where is the death for Cornelius Leopold? Oh, Qld.

Death 1962/B50181 Wallace Cornelius Leopold - John - Johanna

 

[gibbo]

Riverine Herald (Echuca, Vic. : Moama, NSW : 1869 - 1954)
Saturday 25 October 1952

etc etc Deceased was married to Mi' William Wallace who died only six months ago and who was a well known figure in the town. Mr Wallace was the oldest na tive born resident of the town and the' couiple resided at Echuca East.etc etc
Its worth a read.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...ce"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=+JOHANNA+wallace

Think i stuffed up Johanna was supposed to be married to a Joseph not a William

 

[DaveHam9]

Not so sure, gibbo.

WALLACE/WALLIS is a very common name.

Joseph was born 1850 so I doubt his father died around 1952.

The trees have no death for William or Catherine or Johanna.

 

[gibbo]

Not so sure, gibbo.

Joseph was born 1850 so I doubt his father died around 1952.

The trees have no death for William or Catherine or Johanna.

Why didnt he die around 1952, you can have what ever you want in trees :2fun::2fun::2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

Yeah. Apples on a lemon tree. :2fun:

Huge number of deaths for a Catherine WALLACE.

 

[gibbo]

Joseph who died 1928, can we find a burial for him and see if anyone is buried with him.

 

[DaveHam9]

With first wife at Rookwood:

WALLACE JOSEPH Not Available 02-04-1928
Interment Detail Information
Cemetery Anglican & General Cemetery Trusts
Area AN
Section AAA
Row N/A
Block/Plot N/A
Grave No. 0000072

WALLACE LOUISA Not Available 21-05-1893
Interment Detail Information
Cemetery Anglican & General Cemetery Trusts
Area AN
Section AAA
Row N/A
Block/Plot N/A
Grave No. 0000071

 

[DaveHam9]

According to one tree for Catherine:

Date of Conviction: Age: 20
1837 Carlow

I can't find her in transportation database or on NSW Records site.


I'd better check the fiche again for others at the address besides his son:

1926 NSW Electoral Roll - West Sydney - Blackwattle
WALLACE Joseph, 34 Gottenham street, independent means

 

[DaveHam9]

V18382070 22/1838 WALLACE WILLIAM - KAVANAGH CATHERINE CT

Page
Marriages solemnized in the Parish of West Maitland in the County of Northumberland in the Year 1838
No. 19
William Wallace of this Parish
Catherine Kavanagh of this Parish
married in this Chapel by Banns with consent of Government
this Seventeenth day of November 1838 By me W. Stack Chaplain
Both by their marks
Witnesses: John Richards of West Maitland, Peter Green of West Maitland


Seems Catherine was a convict. Don't know yet about William.

The tree has no father listed for Joseph born 1850 West Maitland:

Bap V18503056 35/1850 WALLIS JOSEPH - WILLIAM - CATHERINE

Page 41
Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of West Maitland in the County of Northumberland in the Year 1850
No 1092 When Baptised: 8 December 1850 When Born: 15 July 1850 Joseph - William & Catherine Wallis Abode: West Maitland Quality or Profession: White Smith By whom the Ceremony was performed: Robt. Chapman

 

[DaveHam9]

Catherine Kavanagh

Details

Alias: Cavanagh Irish Rebel: Religion: Catholic Age on arrival: 24
Marital status: Single 1 child
with her 2 brothers Lawrence Cavanagh arrived per Furgusson (1829) & Martin Cavanagh in 1823
Calling/trade: Servant of all work
Born: 1805 Native place: Wicklow
Tried: 1828 Dublin Sentence: Life Former convictions:
Ship: Edward (1) [1829]
Crime: Robbery house
Description:
Remarks:
Spouse:
Died:

 

[horse]

New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1826-1851
William Wallace
Age: 45
Birth Year: Abt 1793
Spouse: Catharine Kavenough
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 31 Oct 1838

 

[horse]

William Wallace
Vessel: Marquis of Huntley
Convicted Date: 8 Dec 1825
Voyage Date: 10 May 1826
Colony: New South Wales
Place of Conviction: Middlesex, England
[14 years]

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That Catherine who arrived in 1829 might not be the right one.

CofE marriage and baptisms for 4 children in West Maitland (Hunter/Newcastle region)

 

[DaveHam9]

Catherine Cavanagh
Alias: Kavanagh, Dogherty Irish Rebel: Religion: Age on arrival: 18
Marital status:
Calling/trade: Nursery maid
Born: 1797 Native place: Dublin
Tried: 1813 Dublin City Sentence: 7 Former convictions:
Ship: Francis & Eliza (1815)
Crime:
Description:
Remarks:
Spouse:
Died:

 

[DaveHam9]

The tree says this is the one:

Catherine Kavanagh
Alias: Kavenagh Cavanagh Irish Rebel: Religion: Protestant Age on arrival: 20
Marital status: Single
Calling/trade: Servant house
Born: 1817 Native place: Carlow Co
Tried: 1837 Carlow Sentence: 7 Former convictions:
Ship: Sir Charles Forbes [1837]
Crime: Stealing money from person
Description:
Remarks:
Spouse:
Died:

 

[horse]

Open mind I think, Dave... a little more digging first

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes. :biggrin:

I think the RC one is out. I think the 1815 one is too early. I think the 1837 one is too late. I'd better find one more Catherine.

The tree has no death. It won't be easy finding the right death for either Catherine or William.