KELTIE/KELTY family in Fife

[DaveHam9]

Alexander Ronald Keltie
Christening Date 10 Apr 1836
Christening Place CARNOCK, FIFE
Birth Date 13 Mar 1836
Father's Name Alexander Keltie
Mother's Name Janet Currie
Batch: C114144
GS Film number 1040154

Piece: SCT1841/414 Place: Carnock -Fife ED: 2
Civil Parish: Carnock Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 2 Page: 4
Address: Carnock
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
KELTIE Alexander M 52 Blacksmith Fife
KELTIE Janet F 50 Fife
KELTIE Adam M 22 Blacksmith Fife
KELTIE Alexander M 5 Fife
Page: 5
NISBET John M 6 Fife

I can't find Alexander in 1851.

Alexander Keltie
Spouse's Name Elisabeth Balfour
Event Date 23 Nov 1860
Event Place Torryburn,Fife
Batch: M114581

Also looking for Alexander and Elisabeth in 1861. First daughter Jane was born 1861 but after the census.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find Alexander in FS in 1851, 1861 or 1871.

Can't find Jessie or sister Sophia Keltie in 1881. Brother

Andrew Keltie
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Gender Male
Age 11
Birthplace Fifeshire
Registration District Torryburn
County Fife

Andrew Kelty
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Gender Male
Age 0
Birthplace Fife
Registration District Torryburn
County Fife

 

[emeltee]

1861
Newbiggin Road, Carnock
Alexander Keltie male married 24 Ag Lab Carnock
Alexander Keltie female married 26 Ag Lab Torryburn

(I think the female Alexander should read Elizabeth)

1871

High Street , Torryburn

Elizabeth Kelty Hea Married 36 Out Door Worker Torryburn
Jesse Kelty dau 8 Torryburn
Alexander Kelty son 3 Labourer's Son Torryburn
Andrew Kelty son 0 Labourer's Son Torryburn

1881

North Side Turnpike Road, North Street, Torryburn

Robert Balfour and family plus
Alexander Keltie Boarder 13 Farm Labourer Torryburn
Andrew Keltie Boarder 11 Scholar Torryburn
Adam Keltie Boarder 9 Scholar Torryburn

1891 Mill Street Dunfermline
Jessie Keltie Head Unm 28 Yarn Winder Fife
Sophia Keltie Sis 26 Fife Yarn Winder
Andrew Keltie Bro 20 Freestone Quarryman Torryburn

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

1891 plus lodger Lizzie Stewart 20 Linen Weaver Dunfermline

I have Keltie and Balfour in my direct line with a very strong connection to the village of Torryburn but so far can't connect either of these Keltie or Balfour lines.

I have 5 generations of Adam Keltie in my tree but not a single Alexander.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Perhaps Alexander Keltie b. Carnock is not connected and the connection to Torryburn is via wife Elisabeth Balfour. Most of the 'Elizabeths' in my tree with connection to Torryburn are 'Elisabeth' in birth/baptism records.

I have 3 generations of Balfour (variations) but I've traced nothing so far after this marriage on Balfour line.

03/12/1784 SANDS WILLIAM - CHRISTIAN BALFOUR/ M Torryburn /FIFE 458/ 0020 0494 * Image *

Gave up their names for Proclamation in order to Marriage.
Wm Sands & Christian Balfour both in this parish.

IGI Batch: M114586

Christian b. 10 Aug 1754 Torryburn, Fife
James BALFOUR & Margaret BALD
Batch: C114584
8th of 11


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Piece: SCT1841/458 Place: Torryburn -Fife ED: 1
Civil Parish: Torryburn Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 1 Page: 5
Address: High Street
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BALFOUR Andrew M 45 Sawyer Fife
BALFOUR Jean F 50 Fife
BALFOUR Andrew M 20 Damask Hand Loom Weaver Fife
BALFOUR Robert M 15 Shoemaker Apprentice Fife
BALFOUR Thomas M 6 Fife
BALFOUR Mary F 11 Fife
BALFOUR William M 9 Fife
BALFOUR Elizabeth M 7 Fife ***: recorded as enumerated

Piece: SCT1851/458 Place: Torryburn -Fife ED: 1
Civil Parish: Torryburn Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Torryburn
Folio: 458 Page: 4 Schedule: 20
Address: High Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BALFOUR Andrew Head M M 57 Sawyer Fife - Torryburn
BALFOUR Jean Wife M F 60 Fife - Torryburn
Page: 5
BALFOUR Andrew Son U M 30 Damask Weaver Fife - Torryburn
BALFOUR William Son U M 21 Labourer Fife - Torryburn
BALFOUR Eliza Dau U F 18 Out Door Worker Fife - Torryburn
BALFOUR Thos Son U M 15 Baker Fife - Torryburn
MARTIN Peter Grnson U M 7 Scholar Fife - Torryburn


Have to try and connect Andrew to Christian.

 

[DaveHam9]

Andrew Balfour
Christening Date 18 Jan 1795
Christening Place TORRYBURN, FIFE
Birth Date 16 Jan 1795
Father's Name Robert Balfour
Mother's Name Mary Erskine
Batch: C114585
GS Film number 1040182


First of 11
Robert b. 1 Aug 1738 Torryburn, Fife
James BALFOUR & Margaret BALD
Batch: C114584

John b. 1740
James b. 1743
Bessy b. 1745
Margaret b. 1748
Marion b. 1750
Jean b. 1752
Christian 1754
William b. 1756
Thomas b. 1759

Last one
David b. 17 Nov 1761 Torryburn, Fife
James BALFOUR & Margaret BALD
Batch: C114584

 

[DaveHam9]

2x Robert but gap is too large.

Robert Balfour
Spouse's Name Mary Erskine
Event Date 2 Nov 1787
Event Place Torryburn, Fife
Batch: M114586
GS Film number 1040182


This won't be easy proving Robert who married Mary Erskine is son of Robert who married Helen Nicol is son of Robert b. 1738 the son of James Balfour & Margaret Bald.

Robert Balfour
Spouse's Name Helen Nicol
Event Date 31 Jul 1762
Event Place Torryburn,Fife
Batch: M114586
GS Film number 1040182

 

[DaveHam9]

He'd be 17 if the one who married Mary Erskine.

Robert Balfour
Christening Date 30 Sep 1770
Christening Place TORRYBURN, FIFE
Birth Date 23 Sep 1770
Father's Name Robert Balfour
Mother's Name Helen Nicol
Batch: C114585
GS Film number 1040182

I'll have to find all the baptism records for children of Robert & Helen and Robert & Mary and try to match naming pattern.

 

[DaveHam9]

Children of Robert & Helen
Helen 1763
Margaret 1765
James 1768
Robert 1770
Catharine 1773
David 1776
John 1779
Cathrine 1785

 

[emeltee]

James balfour and Margaret Bald also had a son Robert born 1738 in Torryburn.

Emeltee

 

[emeltee]

Marriage

James Balfour/Margaret Bawd(sic) 9 July 1737 Torryburn

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Children of Robert & Mary Erskine

Alexander 1788
Cathrine 1790
Thomas 1791
Alexander 1793
Andrew 1795
Mary 1797
Margaret 1799
Alexander 1802

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

My direct line. Bald/Baud/Bawd/Bauld

Very lucky lots of Torryburn records survive.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Children of Robert & Mary Erskine
Alexander 1788

No Alexander son of Robert & Helen.

I should be going backwards only. Have to work from the 1841 and 1851 census in post #6 and decide on parents for Andrew Balfour. Then try to go back again having Andrew's siblings from birth records and naming pattern.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I think we may be stuck looking at 1851 census in post #6.

If Andrew's parents are Andrew & Elizabeth and not Robert & Mary then we have no baptism or the naming pattern was not followed.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

The only baptism is for Andrew son of Robert & Mary Erskine.

If we look at their children we have eldest son Alexander but no son Alexander for James & Margaret Bald.

Not a fit that way.

I'll sleep on it and may or may not try further.

Dave