KIRKLAND family

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Robert KIRKLAND & Mary ROBERTSON
Marriage: 4 Jul 1841 High Church, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland

1851
Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Gorbals -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Laurieston Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Gorbals
Folio: 615 Page: 5 Schedule: 15
Address: 153 Eglinton Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
KIRKLAND Robert B Head W M 34 Ship Agent Renfrewshire - Paisley
KIRKLAND John Son U M 8 Scholar Lanarkshire - Glasgow
KIRKLAND Mary Dau U F 5 Scholar Lanarkshire - Glasgow
KIRKLAND Jeanie Sister U F 27 House Keeper Renfrewshire - Paisley

I'd like a look up for John in 1861 please.

There should have been a Robert B, junior born Nov 1849 Gorbals with the family.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1861
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Tradeston
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 157 Eglington St
ED: 29
Household schedule number: 44
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1861_110

KIRKLAND R B head 44 Paisley, Renfrewshire Cotton Manufacturers Clerk
KIRKLAND John son 18 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Iron Merchants Clerk
KIRKLAND Mary daughter 14 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
KIRKLAND Robert B son 11 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar
KIRKLAND Jeanie sister 57 Paisley, Renfrewshire House Keeper

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thank you very much.

Sister Jeanie aged rapidly.

So where is Robert B. junior in 1851?

Actually it's John I'm chasing so try for 1871 please. Probably not there.

...Coming out to Melbourne as a young man, he entered into business as an iron merchant,...

...an annuity of £250 to his brother, Robert Birkmyre Kirkland, during his life,...

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Sister Jeanie aged rapidly.

Baby sitting brother's ankle biters does that.

Can't find John in 1871, still looking for Robert in 1851.

Do you want Robert B in 1871.

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't see John in shipping records so I guess that's one more for the Shipping board.

He was living in Victoria then moved to NSW in about 1887 and died there in 1927.

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
Name: John Kirkland
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Age: 27
Arrival Date: 10 May 1870
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Greenock
Ship: Brechin Castle
Nationality: Scottish

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thanks.

:2fun: Do I do better without that board? Do I move it there ?

I did look in the assisted and unassisted to Victoria. I don't know how I missed this earlier today:

KIRKLAND JOHN 27 MAY 1870 BRECHIN CASTLE B 293 001

Regards,

Dave

 

[peterspark]

Can anyone help with my John Kirkland from Lanarkshire?
John Kirkland – who was born in Govan Lanark to John and Marion (SPARK) Kirkland in 1861.

He married in 1884 to a Mary Campbell in her home area of Greenock Renfrewshire and had one son John Spark Kirkland in Govan in 1888.

John was found on the 1891 census with his 2 year old son living with his parents John and Marion in Govan, Lanark. Mary Kirkland was a domestic servant at her employers in Lanark as well.

After 1891 the trail goes blank. They can not be located on the 1901 census. I can not find a death for either John or Mary Kirkland.

In 1901 their son John Spark Kirkland is still living with his grandparents at their house in Govan. In 1906 when they both die he is the informant.

What happened to his parents? In 1913 when John Spark Kirkland married he said his parents were both dead.

Anyone who might be able to help solve this mystery?

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Peter and welcome to the Forum


We have several members who are experts in dealing with queries in Scotland.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

??

John Kirkland
marriage: 4 February 1859 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian
spouse: Elsbeth Spark


One of 7 children ??

John Kirkland
Birth 7 May 1861 Govan, Lanark
John Kirkland & Elizabeth Spark


Date of birth for Mary CAMPBELL ? 1865 ?

??
John Kirkland
1891
Age 3
Birthplace Lanarkshire
Registration District Hamilton
County Lanark

Dave

 

[peterspark]

Thanks Dave. I hope someone might be able to help.

Thanks for the info below.
Yes John Kirkland married Elizabeth SPARK
Not sure about one of 7 children - what showed one of 7?

They had -
Elizabeth Spark (1834 Berwickshire Scotland -1906 Govan Scotland )
Married 1859 Edinburgh
John Kirkland [1824 Scotland -1906 Govan Scotland ]
Children-
1. Marion Kirkland (1859 – 1939) m. Robert Buchan
2. John Kirkland (1861 - m. Mary Campbell
3. Robert Kirkland (1864 – 1875)
4. Janet Kirkland (1866 - 1916 )
5. Margaret Kirkland (1868 - 1871 )


They had five children that I know of and only two married with two dying in childhood.

It is their son John Kirkland who I am trying to locate - along with his wife Mary Campbell.

They had one son John Spark Kirkland in 1888 after having married in Greenock, Renfrewshire in 1884.

They can not be found after 1891. Their son John Spark Kirkland lived with his grandparents in 1901 census - parents couldnt be located.
He stated in 1913 that his parents were both deceased. Can not find a death for a John or Mary Kirkland pre 1913 and after 1891.

Maybe they moved to England - but why would they leave their son with grandparents?



Cheers


Peter Spark