Lewis family

[gibbo]

Is that all of them?

Geoff

Apparently not all of them Geoff. There is supposedly a Richard and and Isaac Hare who stayed in England.

I still feel one or 2 of the kids mentioned are not Jane snr's, such as Richard. Something isnt right

 

[horse]

I still feel one or 2 of the kids mentioned are not Jane snr's, such as Richard. Something isnt right

Yeah, difficult to account for/discount them without at least an approximate YoB..

Geoff

 

[horse]

Found Jane's Bap 24 may 1835 - b. 1 May 1835.

Geoff

 

[nathaniel1979]

Im thinking Richard, Issac & Jane Jr might be Hares & maybe passed off as lewis.

With william back to the drawing board.

Im thinking issac might have either died or stayed in England with Richard.

So now we need to find William, Richard, & Jane Jr.

We know that both jane jr & william came to SA that happens to them after that is a mystery

 

[horse]

Nothing leaping out for a Richard Hare c1833 Middlesex with parents = Isaac & Jane

Geoff

 

[nathaniel1979]

What about a Richard under the name Lewis?
May have taken his stepdads surname

Nothing leaping out for a Richard Hare c1833 Middlesex with parents = Isaac & Jane

Geoff

 

[horse]

What about a Richard under the name Lewis?
May have taken his stepdads surname

I should have made it clear I was referring to his bap., in 1833 and up to June 1836 he would gave been named Hare... There would possibly be no reason to bap him after June 1836 given Jane was bap as Hare in 1835..

Geoff

EDIT: Isaac's bap has also been found..

 

[horse]

Apparently not all of them Geoff. There is supposedly a Richard and and Isaac Hare who stayed in England.

I still feel one or 2 of the kids mentioned are not Jane snr's, such as Richard. Something isnt right

So Richard's bap is unaccounted for..

Geoff

 

[nathaniel1979]

Good point

I should have made it clear I was referring to his bap., in 1833 and up to June 1836 he would gave been named Hare... There would possibly be no reason to bap him after June 1836 given Jane was bap as Hare in 1835..

Geoff

EDIT: Isaac's bap has also been found..

 

[horse]

Oh!

This is an interesting collection of names, no Isaac but there is a Richard

1841
County: Middlesex
Street address:
RD: St Giles
Sub-RD: St Giles South
ED: 4; Piece: 673; Book: 4; Folio: 59; Page: 23

Eliza Bentley 35
Eliza Bentley 8
Fredk Bentley 4
Wm Lewis 25 [occ looks like Jobber]
Jane Lewis 25
Richard Lewis 8
Wm Lewis 3
Jane Lewis 6
Eliza Lewis 1
Ann Johnson 25
James Johnson 25
[All BiC except Jane Sr.]

Geoff

 

[nathaniel1979]

Im thinking Ann & James johnson are relatives of Jane Sr her maiden name was Johnson

Who the bentleys are i have no idea

Oh!

This is an interesting collection of names, no Isaac but there is a Richard

1841
County: Middlesex
Street address:
RD: St Giles
Sub-RD: St Giles South
ED: 4; Piece: 673; Book: 4; Folio: 59; Page: 23

Eliza Bentley 35
Eliza Bentley 8
Fredk Bentley 4
Wm Lewis 25 [occ looks like Jobber]
Jane Lewis 25
Richard Lewis 8
Wm Lewis 3
Jane Lewis 6
Eliza Lewis 1
Ann Johnson 25
James Johnson 25
[All BiC except Jane Sr.]

Geoff

 

[nathaniel1979]

So ive got it right in my head

Jane Sr d. 1899 Tarnagulla under Grimsdale
Eliza d. 1877 Tarnagulla under Olson
Charles Found
Thomas found.

Richard (stayed in England) unaccounted for
Issac (died young england most likely)
Jane Jr (went to SA with Jane Sr) unaccounted for (died she came to Victoria??)
William (went to SA with Jane Sr) unaccounted for (died he came to Victoria??)

 

[nathaniel1979]

Still no luck hunting down these ellusive lewis relatives of mine

 

[gibbo]

So ive got it right in my head

Jane Sr d. 1899 Tarnagulla under Grimsdale
Eliza d. 1877 Tarnagulla under Olson
Charles Found
Thomas found.

Richard (stayed in England) unaccounted for
Issac (died young england most likely)
Jane Jr (went to SA with Jane Sr) unaccounted for (died she came to Victoria??)
William (went to SA with Jane Sr) unaccounted for (died he came to Victoria??)

Shame they didnt have unusual middle names to help :biggrin:

In 1864 Jane is a widow with 5 living & 4 dead kids & is from Kent

Arrived with 5 kids: W. and T. Lewis , Jane Hare, Eliza and Charles Lewes

So arriving with 5 kids im assuming the other 4 had all died back in the UK.

4 Dead ??
Isaac
Richard
Edward / Edwin
?

Married Isaac Hare 1830.
Kids: Isaac Hare, Jane Hare [?]
Isaac died 1835.

Married William George Lewis 1836
Kids: William, Thomas, Eliza, Charles, Richard [?] Edward / Edwin [?]

 

[nathaniel1979]

Im thinking the same thing Isaac, Richard, Edward / Edwin died in England.

We just need to find what happened to Jane & William

Shame they didnt have unusual middle names to help :biggrin:

In 1864 Jane is a widow with 5 living & 4 dead kids & is from Kent

Arrived with 5 kids: W. and T. Lewis , Jane Hare, Eliza and Charles Lewes

So arriving with 5 kids im assuming the other 4 had all died back in the UK.

4 Dead ??
Isaac
Richard
Edward / Edwin
?

Married Isaac Hare 1830.
Kids: Isaac Hare, Jane Hare [?]
Isaac died 1835.

Married William George Lewis 1836
Kids: William, Thomas, Eliza, Charles, Richard [?] Edward / Edwin [?]

 

[gibbo]

Im thinking the same thing Isaac, Richard, Edward / Edwin died in England.

We just need to find what happened to Jane & William

I'll have another look this arvo

 

[gibbo]

Jane Sr died in 1899 under the surname Grimsdale. Her death certificate lists thomas, charles & eliza is listed as dead.

William, Jane & Edwin are not named at all.

The only reason i feel they may not have been mentioned is that they were not closely involved with the rest of the family to be known to the informant, hence that could mean they could have been any where in Australia. And a good chance their death indexes wouldnt have parents names neither. I could be wrong but just trying to throw ideas around.

 

[horse]

You OK, Gibbo?

A public tree has this, not validated.. May be worth looking into. Jane's age a bit out.

"Marriage
William Burtt (1809-1882)
1857 Australia
Spouse
Jane Hare
1840–1890"

Tree also has this birth..
"Andrew Burtt (1857-1926)
Abt. 1857 Bingley Creek Victoria Australia"

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

You OK, Gibbo?

Coming along quiet good Geoff thanks

 

[horse]

Also this..

John Hare Elliot
Birth Year: abt 1854
Age: 2 Months
Death Date: 01 Aug 1855
Residence Place: Adelaide
Father's name: John Elliot
Registration Place: Adelaide, South Australia
Page Number: 159
Volume Number: 3

SA Pioneers has mother as Jane Hare..

Geoff

EDIT:
SA Pioneers:
ELLIOTT John, Jane HARE, parents of child born 1855-06-03 named John Henry at Adelaide
[The death would fit if birth was June 1855]