Long standing mystery.

[solidrock2]

My great, great grandfather committed suicide in 1891 in Framfield, Sussex and for many years I have been trying to find his burial place without success. Ihave ben to Framfield a couple of times looking for him, scoured the church yard at St Thomas à Becket Church in the pouring rain and asked many people in the village where "Croxted Lane Yard" would have been. On a record from the now defunked Family History Online it states that he was buried there. I have also checked old maps and with SFHS but with no results. Can anyone find him?

 

[horse]

Hi Keith

This looks like him date, age & place look to fit..

NBI:
8 Aug 1891
Jeremiah BATCHELOR
Aged 63
Framfield, St Thomas a Becket

The data supplier was the Sussex Family History Group and was checked.

This is a partial copy to show this...



Geoff

 

[solidrock2]

Thanks Geoff, that him but he's not buried at the church so where is Croxted Lane Yard ?

 

[horse]

Not sure, Keith.. I have rarely found any issues with the NBI, because their records are usually traceable.

2 things come to mind, when graveyards become full it is not unusual to move bodies and/or use another location. I'm not sure whether or not the suicide would impact on where exactly he was buried?

It may be worth contacting Sussex Family History Group as they are the data suppliers.

This is their website.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Someone else having issues with Croxted Lane Yard.

HERE

Geoff

 

[solidrock2]

Someone else having issues with Croxted Lane Yard.

HERE

Geoff

Thats me.

 

[horse]

Ah!

Right...

Geoff

EDIT: No name was mentioned!

 

[solidrock2]

Not sure, Keith.. I have rarely found any issues with the NBI, because their records are usually traceable.

2 things come to mind, when graveyards become full it is not unusual to move bodies and/or use another location. I'm not sure whether or not the suicide would impact on where exactly he was buried?

It may be worth contacting Sussex Family History Group as they are the data suppliers.

This is their website.

Geoff

I thought that he may have been buried in un consecrated ground because of the suicide but I would have thought that some record of it's were about's would exist but no one in Framfield or Sussex Family History Group can throw alight on it. I suspect it was part of the church grave yard that was'nt consecrated.

 

[horse]

Not sure what else to suggest, Keith..

I suppose it's a bit naive to ask if there is a burial plan of the graveyard?

Geoff

 

[horse]

I thought that he may have been buried in un consecrated ground because of the suicide but I would have thought that some record of it's were about's would exist but no one in Framfield or Sussex Family History Group can throw alight on it. I suspect it was part of the church grave yard that was'nt consecrated.

That is probably likely...

That said, we know his details are recorded correctly, but doesn't help emotionally.

Geoff

 

[solidrock2]

I don't think I will ever find him and the church there is most unhelpful. The irony of it all is that his son committed suicide as well in 1923 but I know where he is.

 

[horse]

Sorry to hear this Keith, sadly that was the rationale then

Geoff

 

[Ellie7]

I have quite a few Unconsecrated in Selby. Also have a Suicide in Leeds ,buried in Oulton where the family came from .Where was he born.

 

[Ellie7]

Jeremiah Batchelor -Age 63-Birth year 1828-Death year 1891-Burial year 1891-Burial date 08 Aug 1891--Dedication St.Thomas-Place Framfield-County Sussex-Country England-Notes
Croxted Lane
Record set Sussex Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish BurialsCollections from England, Great Britain

 

[Ellie7]

Original record-
Burials

• 1538-1983 East Sussex Record Office

Copies-

• 1538-1890 East Sussex Record Office

So not kept there. Was some other Family member with a grave there that he could have been put in .That's what I think happened with my Leeds Suicide .

 

[solidrock2]

Jeremiah Batchelor -Age 63-Birth year 1828-Death year 1891-Burial year 1891-Burial date 08 Aug 1891--Dedication St.Thomas-Place Framfield-County Sussex-Country England-Notes
Croxted Lane
Record set Sussex Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish BurialsCollections from England, Great Britain

That one says Croxted Lane as well, it was'nt where he was living, that was Pale House Common.

 

[Ellie7]

It maybe that like St John's Oulton ,the old gravestones were removed.

 

[solidrock2]

Original record-
Burials

• 1538-1983 East Sussex Record Office

Copies-

• 1538-1890 East Sussex Record Office

So not kept there. Was some other Family member with a grave there that he could have been put in .That's what I think happened with my Leeds Suicide .

I did'nt see any other Batchelor's there and like I said the church was'nt very helpful.

 

[Ellie7]

He was buried at Farmfield were the inquest took place .Just like my Thomas Adamson 1840 Steyning,Sussex.20 July 1840 fell overboard from the Schooner "SAMUEL" at Shoreham Harbour. Buried Brighton Old Church Graveyard after inquest.He is the only Family member buried there ,the rest are in Selby,Yorkshire.I don't think they would have went to the expense of buying a plot even if they could afford to.

 

[Bobamkim]

I did'nt see any other Batchelor's there and like I said the church was'nt very helpful.

I can't figure out what it does.