Look Up Please

[Lynne Ryan]

Would someone be kind enough to do a look up on Elizabeth Phillips born c 1823..ST ISSELLS
missing a mother and father
Married KINFIG WALES... TO JOHN JAMES ]
Have nothing on JOHN JAMES B.C1835
No mother or father here either..
all i know they had daughter Martha JAMES B.1851
and a mary and i do know there were at least 3 others children. no names though..
Could someone please help out ..thank you ..Lynne

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Lynne,

The marriage certificate will give you the fathers names and occupations, also the witnesses maybe be relations.

Where abouts is Kingfig?

Seeing that both were born before civil registration then it will be down to parish records.

 

[Lynne Ryan]

HELLO JULIE
KINGFIG IS IN WALES ..
THANK YOU AGAIN I am hitting a brickwall with these two relatives..for years the family has only had snippets about them ..soo elusive these welch people....
take care and thank you much appreciation for your help
cheers LYNNE

 

[juliejtp]

Think it may be Kenfig in Glamorgan.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Lynne,

The only Martha James thats comes up on the 1861 census with parents John and Elizabeth is as follows.

Civil parish Pembroke St Michael
Reg district Pembroke
Sub reg dist Tenby

John James head age 37 occ ag lab born Narbeth Pembrokeshire
Elizabeth wife age 38 born Carmarthenshire
Thomas son age 14 occ shepherd boy born St Peters Pembroke
Mary dau age 12 born St. Peters
Martha dau age 9 born St. Twin
Sarah dau age 5 born St. Michaels Pembroke
James son age 4 born St. Michaels
William son age 8mths born St. Michaels

The Martha with this family is on the IGI but was a submitted entry. Did you get her info from there?

Where did you get Elizabeth pob from?

 

[juliejtp]

On the 1841 census there is lone Elizabeth Phillips age 20 servant in St. Issells born in county. There a couple of other Phillips families on the same page, she may belong to one of these!

The registration district is Narbeth the same pob given to John James, though it may be nothing.

 

[juliejtp]

Another question where did you get Johns year of birth from?

 

[Lynne Ryan]

Hello Julie,first thank you for the info ,
it all seems to match up with a few items i have known from my father ..most dates my second cousin here supplied to me ..but have a feeling some are a bit oiff but could be near about..
but i do think you are definately on the right track ..but i will do a bit more digging and see what i can match up ..
NARBETH ,PEMBROKE ,ST ISSELLS are all mentioned in certain papers i have and letters between family members AND YES THE Martha does have that connection ,i myself think it might have been a bit of a mix up with family skeltons so to speak ..my family were a bit secretive in lots of ways ,
i have a second cousin on genes re united who has done a tree and he has done similar but no m and j james backgrounbd .. but i do thank you so much for your finding it really helps me a lot will be in touch later ....cheers Lynne

 

[Lynne Ryan]

Oh i also forgot to mentioned these JAMES have a connection with Richard Morris b 23 /9/1855 st issells And Martha James both born around 1851 to say 1855 thatc is the circa
richar arthur ,father was richard morris also :kissu: and his father was ann allen ,i think most were all from around the st issells ,kenfig area was told john james born molliston area ..but will do more checking ..thank you again ..cheers Lynne

 

[juliejtp]

Lynne where about in Wales is Molliston?

 

[juliejtp]

Think Molliston maybe Monkton as per the 1871 census, but will post later on as cannot get on to the site.

 

[juliejtp]

Forget about that one may not be the right one.

 

[juliejtp]

Found the Morris Link.

Marriage 1876
District Narbeth
Jul/Aug/Sept 1/4

Martha James
Richard Arthur Morris

1881 census

Arthur Morris head age 25 occ carpenter born St Issels
Martha wife age 28 born St. Twinells
Hugh I Morris son age 4 born Monkton
A E Morris son age 2 born St. Issells
Hariet Morris married age 25 boarder born Llangonoyd?
Edith M Morris (boarders dau) born Llangonoyd

With Hughs pob being Monkton perhaps John was born Monkton!

 

[Lynne Ryan]

I THINK ITS IN PEMBROKESHIRE..we have had some success ,but need more research to be done..thank you ..
cheers Lynne