Looking for Info...........

[SuzanneW]

Hi everyone,

Just so you know I am new to this site!!!! (so please bare with me)

Just thought I would ask if anyone would be kind enough to help me try and find some info as I have hit a brick wall!!!!!! a big red one!!!!

Trying to get further info on a:

Charles Trojan Bell, born June 1883 in Edmonton, London

Annie Wallace (Charles's wife) born around 1883, Camberwell, London??? not sure on this!!

x3 daughters (Elsie Annie - 1902, Doris Maude - 1905, Olga Evelyn - 1910) and x3 sons (George -1908, Walter Charles Edwin - 1907, Edwin River - 1911)

George, Olga and Edwin all born in Solihull.
Elsie, Doris and Walter all born in London areas

Charles had a long and successful military career from the start of the WW1, receiving several military medals for his service.

Charles and Annie married in June 1902, in Kingston, Middlesex.

I am looking for the parents and siblings of Charles and Annie, any other info on this bunch would be fab!!!

Hope all this info helps, let me know?????

Thanks

 

[patrickw]

Hello Suzanne and welcome to the forum. The members here are really helpful and knowledgeable, so Im sure you will find someone here to help. Good luck in your research,
best wishes
Pat

 

[joyceawood17]

HI Suzanne,

Welcome, The only thing i could find at all on your Charles is his military record, from reading your information you might have all this, it does have all the kids exact dates of birth but i think u might already have that, the one thing that might be contridictory is that he first enlisted in 2 dec 1914 and at that time he was 32, so if he was born in june his year should be 1882, but of course that could be a mistake on the records
sorry, i could not find a birth registery or anything to bring u back further.:'(

 

[SuzanneW]

Hi Joyce and Pat

Just a quick msg to say thank you for your help, not to worry, will keep on trawling the sites!!!!

I know I have a lot of info, but you know what it is like? you get hooked and you just have to go back further................................ to the day dot!!!!!

Thanks again, and speak soon, take care.

 

[juliejtp]

Birth

Charles Trojan Bell
Edmonton
Apr/May/Jun 1/4
Vol 3a
Page 285

His birth certificate will show parents names.

 

[SuzanneW]

Hi Julie

Thank you for that info.

I will get that ordered and then see what comes from that.

xx

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Suzanne,

The marriage certificate will give fathers names and occupations.

 

[SuzanneW]

Hi ya

I ordered marriage cert on Monday, so hopefully it will arrive by end of week, and then I will be able to smash another bit off the brick wall, will let you know when I get it.

Thank you for your help so far, much appreciated.

xx

 

[duckweed]

If you have any other names brothers or sisters that would help. Names can get mistranscibed birthdates may be wrong too, even exact place of birth can vary. So it helps to have a cluster of names. He may have followed his fathers occupation too so that may be a clue.

 

[SuzanneW]

Thank you for that information.

Sorry, but I don't have any info on brothers or sisters for Charles or Annie, really struggling with these two at the moment.

Hoping their m/cert will open another door by the end of the week!:-\

Will let you know, but in the meantime will try a bit more searching tonight.

Thank you again.

 

[juliejtp]

Oops forgot to put year of registration 1883.

 

[SuzanneW]

Julie

Thank you, sorry taken a while to come back to you.

Been on Genes and Ancestry searching for brothers/sisters of Charles Trojan - think I might have found possibly 4 brothers - just need to do a bit more digging (under the brick wall!!!) rather than trying to take it down brick by preverbial brick!!!

Thanks again, have logged that info. Appreciate your time and help.

 

[SuzanneW]

Hi all

Just a quick update............

Got m/cert for Charles and Annie today..............

loads of info found today - which is brill - but all on Annies side, only new bit of info found for Charles is about his father-

Tom Bell -born around 1835-1850 ish, Doncaster region I think (not 100%), and he is listed on m/cert as an Inspector (railways) - deceased before 1902, but no exact date as yet,

Thanks eveyone,

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Suzanne,

Did the witnessess names give any clues?

 

[SuzanneW]

Julie

Witnesses for Charles Trojan Bell and Annie Wallace -

Rivers Wallace (annies uncle)

Rhoda Biden (i think)

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Suzanne,

Found the link between Annie and Frederick John Wallace.

Marriage for Rhoda.

Rhoda Zilpah Knowles
William Biden

Year 1897
Kingston

 

[SuzanneW]

Lost, brain cell has just frozen

So is Rhoda (Annies) aunt, as in Emma Amelia Knowles sister?

Or is she Annies step mum? Fredericks 2nd wife?

Sorry being really blonde tonight

 

[juliejtp]

Looking at the 1881 census she is the dau of Edward Knowles which makes her aunt to Annie.

 

[SuzanneW]

That fantastic, just thought I ought to check 1st!! you can never tell with folk from the 1800's!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a life saver, thank you soooooooooooooooooooooooooo soooooooooooooooooo much for the help you are giving me with this, really do appreciate all your time you are giving up.





:biggrin:

 

[duckweed]

I know you said Doncaster but I've found a Thomas B Bell 1835 in London who was a Railway Guard at Paddington but he was born in Crossthwaite Westmorland wife Florence.