Looking for Lost Relative

[StevenG]

Hello Everyone!

I’m looking for lost relatives from England. My family lives in the US and in the early 1900’s lived in Chelsea, MA.
My aunt told me that her family was visited by a relative when she was (approximately) 11 years old. He gave her and my dad a book of poetry (Poems of Tennyson). My dad lost his gift. My aunt's copy has the following inscription:

To Georgine (my aunt) from Cousin Murray Marks. With affection. Birkdale Lancaster, England dated 16-4-1948

-Murray was likely born in early 1900's, approximately the same age as my grandfather
-Murray had a sister that emigrated to Israel
-He is our Cohen relative, related to Cohen

My Great Grandfather was Aaron Isaac Cohen (1870-1917) . Murray was related to Aaron, we are not sure how. There were other visitors from England related to Murray, two women, but the connection is lost. My aunt is in her 80’s and very healthy. We would love to find our missing UK relatives, descendents and relatives of Murray, and connect them in our family tree.

My aunt and father have had their DNA tested. My father is on Gedmatch, and they are both on FamilyTreeDNA. I have an Ancestry subscription and no luck so far in finding Murray. I also contacted many DNA matches from the UK on MyHeritage DNA, and no success there.

Thanks and any help is appreciated in solving this 50+ year mystery!

 

[p.risboy]

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I've just had a quick look on Ancestry, and there is a Murray Marks c1888, lliving in Southport.(Birkdale). 55, Westdale Road. Occ, Cinema Lessee.
There is also a female, Gene Marks c1900, with him, both married. Gene, maybe Irene......it's rather a scrawl.

Name: Murray Marks
Arrival Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1888
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival date: 16 Aug 1924
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Elysia
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 145919

His death registration
Murray Marks
aged 69.
sep 1958.
Southport.
Lancashire.
Vol. 10f
Page. 459

Name: Irene Marks
Death Age: 95
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1900
Registration Date: Apr 1996
Registration district: Sefton North
Inferred County: Merseyside
Register Number: 50A
District and Subdistrict: 0341A



Steve.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Steve,

A possible birth registration.

1906 - D quarter - Salford
Murray Marks
Mothers maiden name Green

 

[StevenG]

Thanks Julie, the birth date is in the expected range and also the location isn't far from Southport, around 70 km! This appears to be a solid lead.

 

[p.risboy]

Possibly this family for Irene Green.

Name: Irene Green
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
County: Lancashire
Street address: 87 Peru Street
Registration district: Salford
Sub-reg district: Greengate
ED -: 6
Piece: 24019
Household Members: NameAge .... ...all born Salford.

Alfred Green47
Elizabeth Green46
Elsie Green16
Hubert Green10
Irene Green9
Leslie Green6​

 

[juliejtp]

Unless its me, but I cant find Murray Marks born 1906.

 

[p.risboy]

MARKS, MURRAY mmn.GREEN

GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 55

How about this...

Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Name: Irene Balshaw
Registration Date: Jan-Feb-Mar 1932
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: Murray Marks
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 183

Marriage....???

Steve.

 

[StevenG]

This is great information, much appreciated! I'm trying to establish a DNA link.

 

[StevenG]

My aunt doesn't recall if Murray Marks was married.

 

[juliejtp]

There are 3 children born to Murray and Irene. As there is a probalbility they are still living I wont post names.

 

[StevenG]

There are 3 children born to Murray and Irene. As there is a probalbility they are still living I wont post names.

Can you send the names to me by message or email? I've been searching family trees and no success. Thanks.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Steve,

Have sent info.

 

[juliejtp]

Murray Marks born 1906. I believe he is the one that died in 1943. He was in the New Zealand Air Force. He was from Broughton which I think comes under the Salford area. His wife is Eva Mary. So this one can be ruled out.

 

[p.risboy]

The 1939 register, which I quoted from in post#2, I am assuming that Murray Marks is Irene Marks father in law,(married to his son). If I had looked more closely, I would have noticed a child, called Graham Marks, with a birth date of 28th Feb 1936. It appears he dies in 1942 in Southport.
Between the details of Irene and Graham Marks is a record that is officially closed, suggesting a younger child. I can find a birth to confirm this second child, which is Brian Marks

Name: Brian Marks
Registration Date: 1933
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Merseyside
Re-registration Year: 1933
Mother's Maiden Name: Balshaw
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 257


Name: Graham Marks
Registration Date: 1936
Registration district: Liverpool South
Inferred County: Lancashire
Re-registration Year: 1936
Mother's Maiden Name: Balshaw
Volume Number:
8b
Page Number: 237

Name: Graham Marks
Death Age: 6
Birth Date: abt 1936
Registration Date: Jun 1942
Registration district: Southport
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 873


Steve.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi,

The Murray Marks born about 1888 Manchester. He is appearing on a few passenger lists.

New York Passenger List
30 Aug 1939
Ship Queen Mary
Sailing from Southampton

Murray Marks
Age 51
Last permanent address Birkdale

Murray and a few other passengers did not embark.

The transcription of the 1922 passenger list that Steve posted had Murray born Manchester. Fathers name and address, Louis Marks, “Manesfield”, 326 Cheetham Hill, Manchester. The contact person in the USA is a Mr L Levy. Murray status is married, occupation is house furnisher.

 

[juliejtp]

I’ve not been able find Murrays birth registration. If I have found the right family then mothers maiden name is Zimmerman. Could Murray have been born Maurice Levy Marks.

1888 - D quarter - Prestwich
Maurice Levy Marks
Mothers maiden name (transcribed as) Simmerman

1911 census
Event place - Cheetham, North Manchester, Lancashire
Schedule Type 22
Page no 1
Registration no RG14
Piece/Folio 43

Louis Marks head age 51 - occupation jeweller dealer - born Russia
Jessie wife age 47 - born Russia
Herbert son age 25 - occupation solicitors articled clerk
Maurice son age 22 - occupation financier’s clerk
Samuel Harry Marks - age 20 - occupation jewellers clerk
Philip son - age 18 - occupation shippers clerk (industry Cotton Goods)
Lazarus son - age 16 - school
Lily daughter - age 12 - school
Julia daughter- age 9 - school

All children born Manchester

 

[juliejtp]

Probate.

Louis Marks of 65 Alexandra Road Southport Lancashire, died 25 April 1934 at 326, Cheetham Hill Road, Manchester.
Probate Manchester 3rd August to Laurence Marks solicitor. Effects £2572 15s 15d.

 

[juliejtp]

Theres military records for Murray, but I’m not able to access them.

 

[StevenG]

I'm looking for "Mr L Levy" on Ancestry. They would likely have lived in either Boston or Chelsea Massachusetts.

I searched on Ancestry - Passenger Lists 1948 surname Marks and found:

RecordsCategories
Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
PASSENGER LISTS

Record information.
Name
Dolores Marks
Departure
Yarmouth
Arrival
19 Aug 1948 Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
PASSENGER LISTS

Record information.
Name
Edith Marks
Departure
Yarmouth
Arrival
25 Aug 1948 Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
PASSENGER LISTS

Record information.
Name
Edwin S Marks
Departure
Yarmouth
Arrival
25 Aug 1948 Boston, Massachusetts, USA

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There's also a Leeds connection for my family. I have to reach out to some other relatives for more information on that.

Thanks for the assistance with this!