Looking for records of the Army Service Corp 1771-1910

[Rowdy]

I have come to a dead stop on the Spencer line of my tree. Edward Dan Spencer was apparently born 1856 in Greenwich. He was married in 1875 at Manchester Cathedral when he states that he was a Private in the 12th Lancers. We now know that this is untrue. He was in the Army Service Corp. In 1877 his first daughter was born in Bull Point in Devon when Edward is down as a Soldier in the ASC. After the 1881 census the next thing we have is his wife returning from Ireland with two sons both born in Ireland (Dublin and Cork)
How can I find details of members of the ASC. The army says they were not classified as soldiers therefore they don't hold records of them.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Rowdy,

Have you tried the National Archives at Kew?.

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
Nothing to do with Edward's service career, but there are a couple of details which you may or may not know, so I thought I would pass them on just in case.
1881 census
Edward Spencer 25 Greenwich, Soldier A S C
Elizabeth (nee Phinh) 27 Manchester
Amy B 4 Woolwich
Florence L 2 Devonport
John C 5m Bull Point, Plympton, Devon
living Bull Point

If this is correct their first child was not born at Bull point

I can't find all of the family in 1891 but see that John is an inmate at Cheetham Refuge for Boys and Girls in Lancashire, where he can still be found in 1901

Amy 14 is a servant in 1891 in Didsbury, Lancashire

In 1901 Florence 22 is a servant at Giggleswick Grammar School in Yorkshire

Elizabeth 47 is living in Salford in 1901 with Amy 26 a waitress in resturaunt, and Frank born 1891 in Ireland

I hope you find something of interest
dave

 

[gortonboy]

i know this post was a while ago,,,,but if you ever come back to it rowdy,,,,,his records are now available,,,,but only 2 pages survive.

 

[Rowdy]

Hello Gortonboy,

Thanks for taking the trouble to search for info.
"i know this post was a while ago,,,,but if you ever come back to it rowdy,,,,,his records are now available,,,,but only 2 pages survive. "

but which records and where? Rowdy.

 

[gortonboy]

his army record,,, ,,when you have made 3 posts,,i will be able to pm you
not much to be learned from the 2 pages,,,,it does give the parish where he was born,,,there is also a physical description of him......

 

[gortonboy]

looking at the image,,,the parish given wasnt very clear to me,,,but after a bit of googling,i believe it says he was born in the parish of

St Alphege , Greenwich,Kent

 

[Rowdy]

Hi
Nothing to do with Edward's service career, but there are a couple of details which you may or may not know, so I thought I would pass them on just in case.
1881 census
Edward Spencer 25 Greenwich, Soldier A S C
Elizabeth (nee Phinh) 27 Manchester
Amy B 4 Woolwich
Florence L 2 Devonport
John C 5m Bull Point, Plympton, Devon
living Bull Point

If this is correct their first child was not born at Bull point

I can't find all of the family in 1891 but see that John is an inmate at Cheetham Refuge for Boys and Girls in Lancashire, where he can still be found in 1901

Amy 14 is a servant in 1891 in Didsbury, Lancashire

In 1901 Florence 22 is a servant at Giggleswick Grammar School in Yorkshire

Elizabeth 47 is living in Salford in 1901 with Amy 26 a waitress in resturaunt, and Frank born 1891 in Ireland

I hope you find something of interest
dave

Thank Dave for your work on this. I am sorry I was so remiss as to not answer before. I am searching on so many fronts and didn't check replies. Will try better in future. Thanks again.

 

[Rowdy]

his army record,,, ,,when you have made 3 posts,,i will be able to pm you
not much to be learned from the 2 pages,,,,it does give the parish where he was born,,,there is also a physical description of him......

Thanks for the quick reply. when you say "When yiou have made 3 posts" does this mean 3 replies to this thread or three new queries? I'm sorry I haven't got my head round the system yet.

 

[gortonboy]

hi,,you are now able to recieve private messages,,,i have sent you one,,,check your messages ;}