Looking for the birth of Richard Wallis/Wallace

[Aill]

I am looking for the birth of my great great uncle Richard Wallis/Wallace family reports he was born 1837-1840 in Kingstown Ireland to Thomas Wallace/Wallis and Christina Campbell.

Thomas was a stonemason and spent his time going from Glasgow, Scotland to Ireland,

Thomas and his family sailed from Dublin in 1833 to Hobart, Tasmania Australia,
I have been trying to find the births of his children , not having much luck.

Children
Eliza born 1824 ? Scotland
Thomas
Grace
Ann

Any help would be great

Aileen

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello and welcome to the Forum.


... born 1837-1840 in Kingstown Ireland and family sailed to Tasmania in 1833 ??


I have not yet found the family in Tasmanian Pioneer index.

So far I can't find any birth/baptism records in Scotland or Ireland.

Dave

 

[Ellie7]

This Richard's marr?
Richard Wallace
Spouse's Name Sarah Commerford
Date 15 Jul 1862 Place Hobart, Tasmania, Australia


Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

This Richard's marr?
Richard Wallace
Spouse's Name Sarah Commerford
Date 15 Jul 1862 Place Hobart, Tasmania, Australia


Ellie

A John Wallace was a witness to that marriage.

I'm not finding much that helps this topic. Still can't see the family in the Tas Pioneers index.

We need something definite around 1880 - 1900 to work back from.

 

[horse]

The info is a little fragmented as Dave found, difficult to assess Richard's birth details.

There are a couple of records in the Tas. Police Gazettes [Hobart dist] in the 1860' & 90's and note native Irish, though nothing conclusive. The 2 in the 90's may be different Richards'.

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

Not sure if this is of any help. Just a idea to follow a sibling of Richard's and see if anything can be found on him that way.

SA marriage
HUDSON Joseph G, ?, married WALLACE Eliza, ~22, on 1841-01-18 at Adelaide

NSW death
Suposedly Eliza's death ??
HUDSON ELIZA 2685/1907 THOMAS ELIZA RYDE

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14860840

What appears to be the death of Christina in SA

South Australia
WALLACE Christina died 1855-07-25 aged 54 at (MPE)
1855 4/103 WALLACE Christina undefined Munno Para East

 

[horse]

Hmmm...

TOL:
Christina Campbell
Arrival: 1839
Vessel: Planter
New South Wales
Pardons 1842-1845
Place of Conviction: Perth
[Image has 7y, so possible arrival 1832/3]

Geoff

EDIT: More than 1x Christina Campbell, so would need a bit more.. Also ? Dates..

 

[DaveHam9]

There is a Richard in Tasmania who has a brother John also in Tasmania. I don't think that's the right Richard.

We need something definite 1870 - 1910 to work back from.

The info in the first post does not make sense to me.

... born 1837-1840 in Kingstown Ireland and family sailed to Tasmania in 1833 ??

Dave

 

[horse]

There is a Richard in Tasmania who has a brother John also in Tasmania. I don't think that's the right Richard.

We need something definite 1870 - 1910 to work back from.

The info in the first post does not make sense to me.

Yep, one piece of info we know is correct, is needed.

Geoff

 

[Aill]

you were right Dave, Richard born 1837-40 in Kingstown Ireland this information was given to me from a cousin in a family tree Richard was his Great Great grand father

I had no information on the siblings of my Great great grandmothers family Eliza who turned out to be his sister.

Have since found out from the last post.

Thomas Wallace and wife Christina with 4 children not names.
Arrived in Hobart,Tasmania on the Strathfieldsay 27-06-1833.

On Eliza's marriage record to Joseph Hudson in Adelaide 1841 she has stated she was born in Glasgow 29 Jul 1824, have not found any record of her birth.

Richard married Jane Georgina Tutty 1868 in Victoria, no date given of his birth.

Mother Christina Wallace/Wallis died in Adelaide 1855

Father Thomas Wallace death unknown.

I hope this can help .

Aileen

 

[horse]

I can't see a full manifest for the 1833 arrival, you can get some passengers, it is clear that it it is not a full list. HERE..

Need to scroll down close to the bottom.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Richard married Jane Georgina Tutty 1868 in Victoria, no date given of his birth.

May just be worth remembering, to double check surnames..

AMI:
Richard Wallis
Spouse = Jane Georgina Tutty
Reg: Victoria 1868, 3786

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

Event Marriage
registration number 3786
Registration year 1868
Family name TUTTY
Given names Jane Georgina
Spouse's family name WALLIS
Spouse's given names Richard

 

[horse]

Interesting at least one member of the family in SA, not Tas. in 1841 [Eliza Wallace] m. Joseph G Hudson, possibly arrived 1837. Also seen in the SA Pioneers.

Quite a few Wallaces' in the Pioneers but nothing else leaping out

So what's happening with the others after Tas? No sign of father, Thomas

Geoff

 

[horse]

This may be worth putting on the back burner..

SA Pioneers:

WALLACE Mrs, 2 ch arrived 1838-08-18
Vessell = 'Emma' from Hobart

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

How do we know Richard belongs to the same family if he didn't arrive with parents?

How do we know it's the right Richard who married in Victoria in 1868?

Dave

 

[Aill]

this is the right Richard Wallis who married Jane Georgina Tutty in Wangaratta Victoria in 1868, with their two children they went to Broken Hill NSW.

Richard died in Broken Hill 1894 , in my great great grandmother's Eliza Hudson's will in 1907 she left Jane the widow of Richard 20pound.

I have been sent Richard Wallis marriage and he states he was born in Kingstown Ireland age is stated 31 yrs old that would make his birth 1837.

On a cemetery website his age is stated as 60 Years old, that would make his birth 1834.

All these dates do not do not add up.

It seems none of the children births were registered.

It seems strange that we cannot find when they arrived in Adelaide.

Aileen