looking for Tyner

[marineliferescue]

Hi


I am searching for any information on HERBERT GEORGE TYNER b 1874 Lucknow, India. His parents were RICHARD TYNER (could be spelt TINER) and his mother was called HANNAH ?. Hannah was born 1850 in New Zealand. Hannah returned to England where she had a daughter HANNAH CECILIA TYNER b in Carlisle. I am stuck as to how I find the marriage between Herbert and Hannah, have checked the records for the UK and cannot find one, also cannot find a death for HERBERT TYNER in the UK. I am thinking that he may have died in India as Hannah appears on 1881 census as a widow, and then she remarried and appears on further census as HANNAH BOLTON. She was born in Wellington NZ. Any help as to how I may find the birth cert for HERBERT or the marriage cert for RICHARD and HANNAH would really be appreciated. I am on a tight deadline as I am trying to put this family history together for my friend (as a surprise present) who is to emigrate in September. Any ideas please

 

[marineliferescue]

Hi

A little alteration to the info on the Tyners. Hannah Cecilia Tyner was born in Carlisle in 1869 this was before her brother Herbert George was born in Lucknow in 1874. Gave the wrong info on the last post.

 

[DaveHam9]

FIBIS
Your brick wall is in India!

http://www.new.fibis.org/

A search returns only this:

Censuses > 1881 British Census : Surname Index of Individuals Born in India

View Surname TYNER
First Name Herbert J.
Year Born 1875
Place Born India
Census Area Lancashire

1881
Dwelling 9 Warwick St
Census Place Blackburn, Lancashire, England
RG11 Piece / Folio 4194 / 75 Page 13
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Hannah TYNER Head W Female 31 New Zealand Dress Maker
Cecilia TYNER Dau Female 11 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Weaver Cotton
Herbert J. TYNER Son Male 6 India Scholar
Samuel NICHOLSON Lodger U Male 26 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Stone Cutter
Thomas GOUGH Lodger U Male 24 India Shoe Maker
George GOODLINE Lodger U Male 22 Ashton U Lyme, Lancashire, England Mechanic
Richard HANSON Lodger W Male 62 Dewsbury, York, England Pensioner

Looks like an error with the middle initial.


Deaths Jun 1926
Tyner Herbert G 51 Manchester N. 8d 526


Possible given age and location:

Deaths Mar 1879
Tiner Richard 38 Blackburn 8e 304

Regards,

Dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi MLR

Armed Forces BMD
Registration event: Birth


Name: TINER, Herbert G
Regiment: 40th Foot
Place: Lucknow
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1874
Volume: 1125
Page: 23

Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)

dave

 

[oznannie]

Hi Peeps
To kick start here is 1881
9 Warwick St Blackburn
Herbert J Tyner 6yrs bn India
Ceclia Tyner 11yrs bn Carlisle
Hannah 31 wid dressmaker bn N.Z
4 lodgers

bit late

ozn

 

[gortonboy]

hi,,Richard Tiner was b c1838 in St Anns parish,Shandon? Cork City in Ireland,,,he enlisted into the 40th foot age 14 on the 7th Sept 1852. He becvame a Sergeant,,his number was 3129.He served in the Australian colonies for 6 years,,New Zealand for 6 years,,The East Indies for 4 years,,,he also served in Ireland for a time,,but this was classed as home service,,,,he was awarded the silver medal for long service and good conduct and was also awarded the New Zealand war medal 1860-64 for serving in the Maori wars.He was discharged in 1877 with chronic bronchitis,,,he was 5ft 7,,fresh complexion,,grey eyes and light brown hair,,,his intended residence was Blackburn,Lancashire,,,so the death found by Dave looks highly likely,,,as the age fits.

 

[gortonboy]

The medical notes on Richards service record mention he was in Dublin,,so this looks likely as another child of his

Armed Forces registration event: Birth

Name: TINER, Maude E

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966

Regiment: 40th Foot

Place: Dublin

Country: Ireland

Year: 1871

Volume: 1125

Page: 4

Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)

 

[DaveHam9]

I have several in my tree baptised at St Anne's Shandon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St_Anne_(Shandon)

 

[gortonboy]

there is also on the igi this birth,,,Lucknow is also mentioned in the medical records,,,,


Name:

Richard George Tiner
Gender:

Male

Baptism/Christening Date:

11 Mar 1873

Baptism/Christening Place:

Lucknow, Bengal, India

Birth Date:

22 Feb 1873

Father's Name:

Richard Tiner

Mother's Name:

Hannah

 

[gortonboy]

regarding Hannah b1850 maiden name,,,there is this record on the IGI for a Maude A Tiner b1871,,?


Name:

Maude Alice

Gender:

Female

Baptism/Christening Place:

745, PALMERSTON, DUB, IRE

Birth Date:

14 Sep 1871

Birthplace:

Palmerston, Dub, Ireland
Father's Name:

Richard Tiner

Mother's Name:

Hannah Higginson

 

[crankypants]

Hi MLR


The Blackburn Standard: Darwen Observer, and North-East Lancashire Advertiser (Blackburn, England), Saturday, February 01, 1879; pg. 8; Issue 2259. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.
DEATH
TINER.- Richard Tiner, Warwick-street, 38.


cheers
cp

 

[gortonboy]

Name:

Herbert George Tiner

Gender:Male

Baptism/Christening Date:

06 Sep 1874

Baptism/Christening Place:

India
Birth Date:
30 Aug 1874
Birthplace:

Lucknow, Bengal, India

Father's Name:

Richard Tiner

Mother's Name:

Hannah

 

[gortonboy]

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878



Surname

Forename(s)

Sub-District

Registers At

Mother's Maiden Name

Reference



TINER

William John

Blackburn

Blackburn

HIGGINSON

B/196/5

 

[gortonboy]

Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: TYNER, Herbert George

Registration District: Leeds

County: Yorkshire

Year of Registration: 1898

Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun

Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912

Volume No: 9B

Page No: 943

Herbert George Tyner married

ATKINSON, Lucy Ann

 

[gortonboy]

In 1911 Herbert G his wife Lucy Ann and 4 children are living in Salford,Nr Manchester,,, along with his mum,, Hannah Bolton

 

[gortonboy]

yorkshire bmd have Herberts middle initial as S,,,At least now we know the church....St Mark,Woodhouse

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
TYNER

Herbert S

ATKINSON

Lucy A

St Mark, Woodhouse

Leeds

CE69/H/20

 

[gortonboy]

I just cant find them in 1901 ????? :'(

 

[gortonboy]

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: TYNER, Herbert G

Registration District: Manchester North

County: Lancashire

Year of Registration: 1926

Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun

Age at death: 51

Volume No: 8D

Page No: 526

 

[gortonboy]

one of Herberts sons,,,William Herbert b 1899


Civil Registration event: Death

Name: TYNER, William H

Registration District: Manchester

County: Lancashire

Year of Registration: 1958

Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Age at death: 59

Volume No: 10E

Page No: 266

 

[gortonboy]

Burial Date

Deceased

Cemetery

Grave Number

08/11/1958

William Herbert Tyner

Philips Park Cemetery

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