Lookup please

[fargo46]

Hi ,Can someone lookup Gwenllian lewis born 1813 approx in Breconshire, I have her in the 1871,1881 and 1891 census but cannot find her in any previous . Maybe someone else will have better luck.Trying ultimately to find her husbands name.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

I found these on FS site but one of several members will be able to provide the full household and confirm these listings:

name: William Lewis
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 32
birthplace: Breconshire
record type: Household
registration district: Neath
sub-district: Ystradvellte
civil parish: Ystradvellte, Lower
county: Brecknockshire

name: Gwenlian Lewis
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Female
age: 29
birthplace: Breconshire
record type: Household
registration district: Neath
sub-district: Ystradvellte
civil parish: Ystradvellte, Lower
county: Brecknockshire

Regards,

Dave

 

[oznannie]

Hi Fargo
Have a look at this from 1861 for Gweny, her hubby Thomas.
You may recognize some of the kiddies.
Oznannie

RG9/4209/21/2

oops she's the daughter of Thomas..
I've found her in 1851
She has a brother Howell, is this who she was living with when quite elderly??

 

[oznannie]

Here's another Fargo 1861 again in Brecon
William (Wm Lewis) 52 agent
Gwenllian 48
no other family listed.

RG9/4088/8/11

I hope I haven't confused you..

Ozn

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
As there are several possibilities, can you give a ref no of a census you have of her. Thanks
dave

 

[fargo46]

In the 1891 census the ref is RG12 Piece 4464 Folio 10 Page 2 , the 1881 isRG11 Piece 5343 Folio 14 Page 8 , hope this helps.

 

[fargo46]

The problem I am having is that the program I am using foe census lookups cannot find Gwenllian in any census pre 1871. I might have to change programs.

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
there seems to be a few loose ends here. It also looks as if Gwenllian was a Lewis before and after marriage, IF I have the right records

1841 HO107-1367-21/11-16
1851 HO107-2463-453-10
1861 RG09-4088-8-11
1871 RG10-5433-18-10

1841 Howell 28, Thomas 7, Mary 6, William 7m, Gwenllian 29 Serv
1851 Thomas 60, Gwenllian 38 u/m dau, Howell 37 u/m, William 9 g.son
1861 William 52, Gwenllian 49
1871 William 63, Gwenllian 58

dave

 

[fargo46]

Cheers for that , one other question ,where were these census taken ,as I mentioned before My program that I am looking up census details cannot find Gwenllian pre 1871.Untill I can afford to purchase membership to a better site I will have to make do.

 

[davelambert271]

one other question ,where were these census taken,.

Hi
1841 - Pant-y-celin, Ystradvellte
1851 - Hendrefydd, Ystradvelley Lower
1861 - 36 The Firs, Ystradfellte
1871 - Pen-y-commin, Ystradfellte

dave

 

[gibbo]

In the 1891 census that GB found Howell and his family are living with Gwenllian.

1891 census YSTRADFELTE

Gwenllian Lewis b 1813
Howell Lewis b 1864
Ann Lewis b 1864
Gwenllian Lewis b 1886
William Lewis b 1889

Note Howell's kids appear to have been named after his grandparents.

I wonder if Howell's mother was single when she had him, hence him been raised by family.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hi
there seems to be a few loose ends here. It also looks as if Gwenllian was a Lewis before and after marriage, IF I have the right records

1841 HO107-1367-21/11-16
1851 HO107-2463-453-10
1861 RG09-4088-8-11
1871 RG10-5433-18-10

1841 Howell 28, Thomas 7, Mary 6, William 7m, Gwenllian 29 Serv
1851 Thomas 60, Gwenllian 38 u/m dau, Howell 37 u/m, William 9 g.son
1861 William 52, Gwenllian 49
1871 William 63, Gwenllian 58

dave

dave,

Could you please confirm that the William Lewis aged 32 in the 1841 from FS that I posted in #2 is not part of the household with Gwenlian aged 29 that you found.

Are we any closer to determining either of Howell's (b. abt 1864) parents from info in the census records? Is the 1885 marriage to Ann Jones the only option left?

Thanks.

Dave