Luck Olive DOWLMAN

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Dec Qtr 1870 Lincoln 7a 995
DOWLMAN George & DAWSON Eliza

1871
RG10 Piece 3367 Folio 27 Page 9
Civil Parish: Bardney
County: Lincolnshire
Registration District: Lincoln
Sub-RD: Lincoln South
ED: 16
No of Schedule: 43
Address: Mill Lane
George Dowlman Head 25 Ag Lab Havenby Lincolnshire
Eliza Dowlman Wife 21 Bardney Lincolnshire

Arrived in Vic. via NZ ??

Luck Olive DOWLMAN b. 27 Sep 1893 Northcote, Vic. ?

How to explain this birth??

Birth 1893 McKAY Luck Olive - Sara McKAY b. Northcote, Vic. #34115

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 1923 DOWLMAN Eliza 74 DAWSON George - Eliza SURFLETT d. Northcote, Vic. #12024

Death 1929 DOWLMAN George 84 Samuel - Mary UNK d. Northcote, Vic. #2755

 

[DaveHam9]

Luck's siblings ... John George, Elizabeth, & Mirium. Also Samuel and Charles ... ??

Dowlman births in Vic. 1871 - 1900 with father = George only one ?

DOWLMAN
Chas Saml
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Eliza
DAWSON
<Unknown Family Name>, Geo
NORTHCOTE
1889
33798/1889

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths
DOWLMAN
Jno Geo
Death
<Unknown Family Name>, Eliza
DAWSON
<Unknown Family Name>, Geo
Melb E
<Unknown Family Name>
21
1892
14758/1892

DOWLMAN
Chas Somerville
Death
<Unknown Family Name>, Eliza
DAWSON
<Unknown Family Name>, Geo
Northcote
<Unknown Family Name>
8 ??
1889
18143/1889

DOWLMAN
Saml
Death
<Unknown Family Name>, Eliza
DAWSON
<Unknown Family Name>, Geo
N'COTE
<Unknown Family Name>
11 Months
1886
6705/1886

 

[DaveHam9]

DOWLMAN, JOHN GEORGE - DAWSON
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in LINCOLN Volume 07A Page 482

??
DOWLMAN, ROBERT - DAWSON
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in SPILSBY Volume 07A Page 565

DOWLMAN, ELIZA - DAWSON
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in LINCOLN Volume 07A Page 524

DOWLMAN, MIRIAM CHARLOTTE - DAWSON
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in LINCOLN Volume 07A Page 502

No more found in England. Only one birth found in NZ.

21 Apr 1885/8732 Dowlman Samuel - Eliza - George

So arrival in NZ 1879 - 1885 and arrival in Vic. 1885 - 1886.

 

[DaveHam9]

Family not found in 1881 census ?

The rest of the family ??

Unassisted to Vic. from N= NZ
Age 40 206 JAN - 6 N 'WAIHORA' 1886 DOWLMAN, G MR

 

[gibbo]

How to explain this birth??

Birth 1893 McKAY Luck Olive - Sara McKAY b. Northcote, Vic. #34115

Could she have been "adopted" by the Dowlman family?

 

[DaveHam9]

Possibly gibbo.

The trees don't say so but it's such an uncommon name. They show her as the 4th of 6 children but from the births I've found so far that is wrong.

Miriam 1879 is not the youngest. Charles Samuel 1889 born in Vic. seems to be the youngest with a reg. Followed by Luck.

 

[DaveHam9]

Charles Samuel b. 1889 Vic. d. ??

Charles Somerville b. ?? d. 1889 Vic. aged 8 ?

Samuel b. 1885 NZ d. 1886 Vic. 11 mo.

2x Charles S or an error with middle name and an error with age as 8 years and not 8 months ?

If there are 2x then the birth in 1889 has to be after the death in Vic. in the same year.
And with age as 8 years the birth then is abt 1881 but not found in GRO or NZ index.

 

[DaveHam9]

I don't know where the family was in NZ so can't search shipping records 1879 - 1885 assuming an arrival port.

 

[horse]

I don't know where the family was in NZ so can't search shipping records 1879 - 1885 assuming an arrival port.

If yours, may be a little late.. Anc. suggests this.

City Directories:
George Dowlman
Year: 1886
Residence: Roslyn
[Image has King Street. Labourer]

Geoff

 

[horse]

At least one tree points to this..

"Arrival 10 Jul 1880 Port Chalmers, Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand"

Dunedin would fit with Roslyn.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

May have been compiled and published after the family left.

That would mean the birth abt 1881 was in NZ but not in the index.

Dave

 

[horse]

One tree points to this, not checked.

Vic. Birth Index 1837-1913:
Luck Olive McKay
Birth Registration Date1893
Birth Registration PlaceVictoria, Australia
Mother Maiden NameMcKay
Reference Number34115

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

It would seem to be the correct birth and then 'adopted' as gibbo suggested later using Dowlman.

Passenger lists to Port Chalmers seem to end at 1851.

 

[horse]

Was hoping to attach some info to that birth [have seen your entry, Dave].. May be a few mins.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Only one arrived on that date:

'Mellowdale' London 13/04/1880 Port Chalmers 10/07/1880 88 days Capt Dorman

No mention of any passengers.

'Mataura' Gravesend 19/04/1880 Port Chalmers 13/07/1880 81 days Capt Alex Brown Brought out 25 passengers


Curious way the list is set up. No link for the first vessel but clicking on the link for second one gets a list.

Saturday July 17 1880 page 15
Arrivals:
Saturday - Mallowdale, barque, 1289 tons, Dorman, from London (April 13). Cargills, Gibbs, and CO., agents.
Passengers: Second cabin -
Bayldon Mr
Bartlett Mr and Mrs and 3 children
Blakely Mr and Mrs and 4 children
Camell Mr
Cook Mr and Mrs and 3 children
Dowman Mr and Mrs and child
Dowlinson Mr and Mrs and 3 children
Elworthy Miss
Hale Mr and Mrs and 3 children
Hooper Mr
Hooper Mr and Mrs
Hooper Miss
Stockwell Mr
Surfleet Mr
Turner Mr
Wanstall Dr

Something is not right.

If it is Dowman then we know at least two children born England arrived - John and Miriam.

It's not Dowman - that's John, Maria and F. Maria Dowman from a clear image of the newspaper.

 

[horse]

Was hoping to attach some info to that birth [have seen your entry, Dave].. May be a few mins.

See attachments from a public tree.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

The transcription of the newspaper article is inaccurate.

I have no birth for a Frederick and Miriam did arrive.

 

[DaveHam9]

Death GREEN MIRIAM CHARLOTTE 6240/1941 GEORGE - ELIZA - MARRICKVILLE