Margaret Ann Parker (Canada)

[robertsonfamily]

Hi all

I'm trying to find information about Margaret Ann Parker on behalf of my great aunt.

She was born on 11 Aug 1932 in Marylebone to Frank George Parker and Helene Osbourne.

After she was born she moved in with my grandfather, great aunt and their parents. My great grandparents brought her up and she was seen as a younger sister to my grandfather and great aunt.

However when she was around 8 she moved out (I think back with her mother) and then emigrated to Canada with her mother and her grandfather.

My great aunt has been trying without success to track her down.

Any advice or information from members would be great - Canadian records are not something I have any knowledge of.

Many thanks
John

 

[davelambert271]

Name:

Margaret PARKER 19 1932

Date of departure: 2 October 1951
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Montreal, Canada
Passenger destination: Montreal, Canada
Date of Birth: 1932 (calculated from age)
Age: 19
***: Female
Occupation: Sten

The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Archibald PARKER 22 1929 Miner
Eliza PARKER 65 1886 housewife
Helene PARKER 40 1911 Sten
Robert PARKER 68 1883 retired

Ship: Empress of Canada
Official Number: 160631
Master's name: J.P Dobson
Steamship Line: Canadian Pacific
Where bound: Montreal
Registered tonnage: 11243

 

[davelambert271]

addendum to previous post

address at time of voyage

Archbald - 64 Atholl Terr, Bathgate, Lothian
Eliza/Robert - 178 Bidcup Road, S.E London 12
Helene/Margaret - c/o The Lept Travel Agency, London EC4

dave

 

[robertsonfamily]

Hi Dave

Thanks very much for this, great information.

I dont think any of the other Parkers are related as they aren't names / locations I have come across in that family branch.

Assuming the grandfather was Helene's father are there any Osbournes / Osbornes on the same crossing?

Thanks in advance.

John

 

[davelambert271]

found these marriages which I find a little strange. These are the only two entries and for them both to have the same second name initials is spooky.. Did they marry 1931, divorce, then remarry in 1942. This would explain why Helene is named Parker or Osborne

Marriages Jun 1942

Cox Sydney G D'arcy Brighton 2b 664
Darcy Mary A Cox Brighton 2b 664
Osborne Helene L Parker Brighton 2b 664
Parker Frank G Parker Brighton 2b 664
Parker Frank G Osborne Brighton 2b 664
Parker Helene L Parker Brighton 2b 664
*COMMENT entry reads Parker or Osborne for spouse name
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Marriages Sep 1931

Green Nat F Herbert Pancras 1b 79
Herbert Margery Green Pancras 1b 79
Osborne Hélène L Parker Pancras 1b 79
Parker Frank G Osborne Pancras 1b 79

I could not find any Osbo(u)rne's on the 10/1951 voyage

 

[robertsonfamily]

found these marriages which I find a little strange. These are the only two entries and for them both to have the same second name initials is spooky.. Did they marry 1931, divorce, then remarry in 1942. This would explain why Helene is named Parker or Osborne

Marriages Jun 1942

Cox Sydney G D'arcy Brighton 2b 664
Darcy Mary A Cox Brighton 2b 664
Osborne Helene L Parker Brighton 2b 664
Parker Frank G Parker Brighton 2b 664
Parker Frank G Osborne Brighton 2b 664
Parker Helene L Parker Brighton 2b 664
*COMMENT entry reads Parker or Osborne for spouse name
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Marriages Sep 1931

Green Nat F Herbert Pancras 1b 79
Herbert Margery Green Pancras 1b 79
Osborne Hélène L Parker Pancras 1b 79
Parker Frank G Osborne Pancras 1b 79

I could not find any Osbo(u)rne's on the 10/1951 voyage

Thanks. I had found the 1st marriage but wasn't aware of the second. Itis certainly in the right place (Brighton) so is highly likely.

If they broke up after Margaret's birth that would explain whyshe moved in ith my great grandparents. And if they got back together that would explain why she left again. The second date is certainly around the right time.

Not clear why her dad was not on the ship in 1951 though...

Thanks
John

 

[davelambert271]

what is the name of Helene's father and how old was he say in 1951 please

 

[robertsonfamily]

what is the name of Helene's father and how old was he say in 1951 please

Not sure - haven't been able to find birth details of Helene.

I meant I was unsure why Margaret's father Frank George Parker wasn't on board.

There was some speculation within the family that Helene was born in Canada, but do not know if that is the case.

Is there any way of knowing where they went when they arrived in Canada? Does passenger destination Montreal mean that is where they were intending to end up, or simply the port they disembarked?

John

 

[davelambert271]

Could this be her
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Helene L Parker

Birth Date: 18 Jan 1911
Age: 44

Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 30 Oct 1955
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Boston
Ship Name: New York
Shipping Line: Greek Line
Official Number: 6567/60
address - 53 Seymore Court, Colney Hatch Lane, London N10
secretary - UK Passport
Unfortunately it does not give place of birth

 

[robertsonfamily]

Looks possible as 1911 was the suggested birth date in 1951.

If there is a Helene Osbourne in the 1911 Census that would give her father's name. But not sure where she was born so where to look.

I take it there was no reference to Margaret coming back in 1955?

Thanks
John

 

[robertsonfamily]

If there is a Helene Osbourne in the 1911 Census that would give her father's name. But not sure where she was born so where to look.

Just had a quick look and nothing obvious - there is a Helen Marjorie Osborne on the Isle of Wight but she was aged 10 months, so would have been born in 1910.