Margaret CAIRNS nee WALKIN(G)SHAW

[DaveHam9]

Margaret WALKINGSHAW b. 3 May 1780 West Linton, Peebles
Robert WALKINSHAW & Margaret JACKSON
Batch: C117732

1841
Piece: SCT1841/765 Place: Lyne & Megget -Peebles-shire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Lyne Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 2
Address: Hamildean Cottage
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
PAGON John M 20 Agicultural Labourer Peebles-shire
PAGON Mary F 20 Peebles-shire
PAGON Thomas M 1m Peebles-shire
CAIRNS Margaret F 60 Peebles-shire
CAIRNS James M 2 Peebles-shire

possible
1851
Civil Parish: Dolphinton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Newmill
Alexander Cairns 20 Farm lab Newlands Peebles
Margaret Wife 25 Liberton Lanark
James Cairns son 11 Carnwath Lanark
Not named 4 days
Margaret Cairns visitor 70 Linton Peebles

Can't find a death for Margaret in Scotland 1851 - 1891 using variations of CAIRNS and WALKINSHAW.

Also looking for parents of James and Alexander.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Possible for 1861

Reg No: 767
RD: Newlands
Civil Parish: Newlands
County: Peeblesshire
Address: Goldies Mill
ED: 2; Page: 1; Line: 7; Roll: CSSCT1861_138

Margaret Cairns 83 [b. Linton, Peeblesshire. Labourers Widow-pr]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Perhaps I should search past 1891.

John Pagan
Spouse's Name: Mary Cairns
Event Date: 14 Mar 1841
Event Place: Newlands,Peebles
Batch: M117674

Dave

 

[horse]

hahaha...

Nah! There's a couple of trees with; d. Midlothian 1861, not validated. Just trying to confirm it.

Geoff

 

[horse]

There's a couple of trees with; d. Midlothian 1861, not validated. Just trying to confirm it.

Geoff

One of the trees has this...

"1861
3 Sep
Age: 81
Whitefaugh, Carrington, Midlothian, Scotland
No medical attendent, death certificate, Register House, Edinburgh"

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 1861 CAIRNS Margaret ( ? ) Carrington, Midlothian Age 80

Does not fit with Walkingshaw or Walkinshaw.

 

[horse]

Death 1861 CAIRNS Margaret ( ? ) Carrington, Midlothian Age 80

Does not fit with Walkingshaw or Walkinshaw.

I can't find anything to support it either

 

[barbarajoh]

Don't know if you are still interested in this lady, Dave as a few years ago but i have her death in 1861. Parents are Robert Walkingshaw and Margaret Jackson and she was the widow of David Cairns, ploughman.

She died at Carrington September 3rd 1861

One of our members of Borders FHS has asked me to try and find David's parentage and one of my google searches brought up our forum. I haven't gone further but think he is descended from John the first child of David and Mgt (Walkingshaw).

In the first message on this thread you have James as son to Alexander but FMP has him as a visitor and possibly the same James is with Mgt Cairns in 1841 aged 2 when she is living with her daughter Mary Pagan and husband.

Sorry to stir up the dust again!

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

It's a branch of my tree that has not been pruned off in the meantime.

Add to my tree, or fix an error or whatever is fine.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I have these Barbara.

John b. 19 Apr 1799 c. 22 Apr 1799 Eddlestone, Peebles
Batch: C117604

David b. 14 Oct 1802 c. 25 Nov 1802 Stobo, Peebles
Batch: C117702

Margaret b. 13 Sep 1804 c. 11 Oct 1804 Stobo, Peebles
Batch: C117702

Janet b. 14 Sep 1806 c. 26 Sep 1806 Stobo, Peebles
Batch: C117702

Thomas b. 9 Feb 1811 Newlands, Peebles
Batch: C117672

Adam b. 10 Nov 1814 c. 27 Nov 1814 West Linton, Peebles
Batch: C117732

Mary b. 28 Mar 1817 c. 13 Apr 1817 West Linton, Peebles
Batch: C117732

Robert b. 22 Jul 1819 Newlands, Peebles
Batch: C117672


No Alexander there??

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Have not found birth/baptism details for any of the six children of Thomas Cairns and Janet Draper.

Janet's death in Qld.
Death Reg# 1896/C03342 Cairns Janet - John Draper - Mary Cairns

Janet born abt 1805 Stirling.

Children
Janet * born before marriage
Mary * mother's mother
Margaret * father's mother
David * father's father
John * mother's father
Catherina Alexandra

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Late baby


CAIRNS
ALEXANDER
DAVID CAIRNS/MARGARET WALKINSHAW FR446 (FR446)
M
04/08/1824
767/
30 17
Newlands

 

[barbarajoh]

also

CAIRNS
WILLIAM
DAVID CAIRNS/MARGARET WALKINGSHAW FR98 (FR98)
M
04/01/1801
766/
10 86
Manor

and probable
CAIRNS
JAMES
DAVID CAIRNS/
M
08/02/1809
767/
10 189
Newlands

no mother mentioned

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

Descendants of son Thomas connect in two places to my McLuckie family from Largs.

John DRAPPER & Mary CAIRNS
18 Mar 1788 Logie, Perth
Batch: M113745

No sign of either in 1841 in Stirling or Perth.


Janet nee Draper

Cairns, Janet, b. 31 May 1805 at "Bridge of Allan" Scotland, d. 4 Feb 1896 at 'Cairnsville' Brisbane, aged 90yrs

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Thomas CAIRNS & Janet DRAPER
11 Nov 1837 Logie, Perth
Batch: M113746

Children
Janet * born before marriage * 1832 Bridge of Allan ?
Mary * 1836 ? Hill of Rip ?
Margaret * 1837 St Ninians ?
David * 1840 St Ninians ?
John * 1843 St Ninians (census) ? or St Cuthberts (shipping record) ?
Catherina Alexandra * 1849 St Cuthberts Edinburgh ?

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Janet was the one who married Thomas? And her mother was a Cairns too? Might help me with going back with David then if we can find anything about Mary Cairns. She didn't go out to Australia too?

Note that Margaret and David not using naming patterns as far as her parents as Robert was quite far down the list of boys and there isn't room for a dead one:2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

Arrived 4 Jan 1852 - Reel 2463
Thomas 40 Farm Labourer Noblehouse Co Peebles - David & Margaret mother living at Noblehouse CofS R&W None Good None
Janet 38 Dom Servt. Bridge of Allan Stirlingshire - John & Mary Draper both dead CofS R&W
Mary 15 Dom Servt. Hill of Rip Stirlingshire Thomas & Janet on board
Margaret 14 Dom Servt. St Ninnian parish Stirlingshire - ditto
David 12 Stirling same parish - ditto
John 9 St Cuthberts parish Edinbro - ditto
Catherine 3 St Cuthberts parish Edinbro - ditto


Death 1896/C03342 Cairns Janet - John Draper - Mary Cairns

The Brisbane Courier (Qld.) - Sat 22 Feb 1896 p.4
DEATHS
CAIRNS.-On the 4th February, at Cairnsville, Breakfast Creek, Janet, the dearly beloved wife of Thomas Cairns, and mother of Mrs. W. J. F. Cooksley, aged 90 years and 9 months.

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Interesting how Thomas ended up in Stirling from Peebles. Lanarkshire, Glasgow or Edinburgh was a more likely travel for work back then. Going to relatives more likely?

Have to go, be back later.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

It was some time ago but when I looked I could not find John or Mary Draper in 1841.

Both dead by Jan 1852.

Shipping record has Margaret living at Noblehouse as of Jan 1852.

??
1851
Civil Parish: Dolphinton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Newmill
Alexander Cairns Head 20 Farm Lab Newlands Peebles
Margaret Wife 25 Liberton Lanark
James Cairns son 11 Carnwath Lanark
Not named 4 days
Margaret Cairns visitor 70 Linton Peebles

Pob and age fit for Margaret in 1841 and 1861 so that is probably youngest son Alexander with his age a bit out.


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Wonder why this tree is showing some as 'half'

Janet Cairns
Born 26 Sep 1806 in Stobo, Peebleshire * actually baptism date
Daughter of David Cairns and [mother unknown]

Sister of John Cairns, John Cairns [half], William Cairns [half], David Cairns, Margaret Cairns [half], Thomas David Cairns [half], Adam Cairns [half], Mary Cairns and Robert Cairns

If David married twice then those with 'half' attached would be in one batch together ??

Can this be confirmed?

David CAIRNS & Margaret WALKINGSHAW
10 Jun 1798 Eddlestone, Peebles

CAIRNS
DAVID
MARGARET WALKINGSHAW/FR355 (FR355)
10/06/1798
760/
20 272
Eddleston

Dave