Margaret Ellen SHIELDS

[DaveHam9]

Something odd here.

NSW Marriage 1656/1862 SHIELDS WILLIAM - HOWARD JULIA ANNE - GOSFORD * 16 Sep 1862

NSW Birth 6291/1862 SHIELDS MARGARET ELLEN - WILLIAM - JULIA ANN - GOSFORD * 22 Jun 1862

 

[gibbo]

Maybe had the baby before they married

 

[DaveHam9]

It would normally not be registered as if the birth was after the marriage. No reg as Howard. And no reg with just mother's name. And no declaration to correct an entry so they cheated somehow ?

I mean they registered the birth as if they were married.

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find a marriage notice in Trove.

 

[DaveHam9]

?
NSW Death SHIELDS JULIA A 16636/1930 CORNELIUS - CATHERINE - REDFERN

An error or not the right death??

SHIELDS Julia Agnes Funeral notice 03OCT1930 Publication Sydney Morning Herald 03OCT1930

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16719456


Lots of possible deaths for William.

 

[gibbo]

Im unsure??

Julia Agnus Condon Shields
BIRTH unknownDEATH 1930BURIAL
Mudgee General Cemetery
Mudgee, Mid-Western Regional Council, New South Wales, AustraliaPLOT RC, K

George William Shields
BIRTH unknownDEATH 1910BURIAL
Mudgee General Cemetery
Mudgee, Mid-Western Regional Council, New South Wales, AustraliaPLOT RC, K

 

[gibbo]

• Evening News (Sydney, NSW : 1869 - 1931)
• Thu 31 Jul 1890

IN MEMORIAM.
SHIELDS.—In loving memory of Julia Ann Shields, who died July 31, 1887.
Inserted by her loving children. R.I.P.
E.I.P.

Not finding a death reg. in NSW for her.

 

[juliejtp]

Here’s the burial for Julia Agnes Condon Shields on findagrave.

 

[gibbo]

SHEILES JULIA A
13309/1887
JOSEPH
ELIZABETH
GOSFORD

SHEILES WILLIAM J [possibly a son?? William J shields born 1859]
12393/1895
WILLIAM
UNKNOWN
GOSFORD

 

[gibbo]

• The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
• Mon 1 Aug 1887

SHEILES. -July 31, at her son's residence, Erina, Gosford, Julia Ann, the dearly-beloved wife of William Sheiles, aged 55 years,
after a long and painful illness. R. I. P. A faithful wife and fond mother.

 

[gibbo]

It would normally not be registered as if the birth was after the marriage. No reg as Howard. And no reg with just mother's name. And no declaration to correct an entry so they cheated somehow ?

I mean they registered the birth as if they were married.

There are several births before the marriage. Or as you say something wrong somewhere??

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Thanks Julie.

Which version of the name is correct?

Shields again here.

NSW Marriage 544/1882 KAIN JOHN - SHIELDS MARGARET - SYDNEY * 24 Apr

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Death SHEILES WILLIAM J 12393/1895 WILLIAM - UNKNOWN - GOSFORD * 19 Nov

Can't find a notice in Trove.

 

[DaveHam9]

Was Julia's maiden name Taylor ?

Born abt 1832.

NSW Bap TAYLOR JULIA 185/1833 V1833185 129 ELIZABETH

Being a volume past 123 I can't look that up at a local library.

No marriage in NSW index 1849 - 1862 for a Julia Taylor.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
NSW Bap SHIELDS WILLIAM 2373/1842 V18422373 61 WILLIAM - EMMA * RC

 

[gibbo]

Yeah im not finding any death or funeral notices to help.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

It's way off a main line so not too worried.

 

[DaveHam9]

If I can find this marriage on film it might help.

NSW Marriage 544/1882 KAIN JOHN - SHIELDS MARGARET - SYDNEY * 24 Apr

It may be RC St. Mary's Cathedral.

FIRST NAME: MARGARET ELLEN
LAST NAME: KAIN
AGE: 71
BIRTH: -----
DEATH: -----
BURIAL: 1934-01-17
SITES: W-10-RC-OR-1519

RC burial at Waverley.

 

[DaveHam9]

I thought with Kain I'd find a tree but no.