Margaret Graham

[JimmyFlorus]

Hi

I'm searching for some information about my grandmothers ancestery. I'm looking for the mother of her gandmother Margaret Graham (born in 1870 in Doncaster) who was married to Charles Firth (on 24/12/1890 in Hunslet). Her father was John Matthew Graham.
Hope someone can help me.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello and welcome to the Forum.

If I'm reading it correctly then

Births Dec Qtr 1870
Graham Margaret Doncaster 9c 599 mmn GRADY

Something is wrong somewhere ?? Marriage and 1871 census ??

 

[DaveHam9]

GRAHAM, JOHN MATTHEW - GRADY
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 614

Margaret in 1871 and 1881 ??

 

[DaveHam9]

I can only find those two births.

I can't find the family in 1871 or 1881 census.

I can't find the Graham & Grady marriage in England so Ireland ??

 

[JimmyFlorus]

I have birthcertificate of maragret graham and the morther's full name was Elisja Grady.

And there are indeed no marriage recorts of them.

 

[DaveHam9]

Is Margaret's father listed as John Matthew or just Matthew?

Is it possible the family came from Ireland and children born before Margaret were born in Ireland ?

 

[JimmyFlorus]

On Margaret's birthcertificate is name and surename of the father is Matthew Graham.

I think there was only Margaret and her brother John Graham (the one who was born in 1872).

 

[JimmyFlorus]

And i don't know if John Matthew Graham also came from Ireland.
I think he was from England

 

[DaveHam9]

1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBZ9-8GT

Name: Matthew Grame
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: 1836
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Doncaster
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 4718
Folio: 119
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Grame 35
Eliza Grame 25
Peter Grame 7
Mary Grame 2
Margaret Grame 5/12

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find any of that family in 1881 so far.

 

[DaveHam9]

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

This one and other one are probably errors fro Eliza.

Area - DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - RATHFARNHAM
Marriage of MATTHEW GRAHAM of N/R and RLIZA GRADY of N/R on 30 November 1864
Husband Wife
Name MATTHEW GRAHAM RLIZA GRADY
Address N/R N/R
Occupation N/R N/R
Father GRAHAM GRADY
Mother N/R N/R
Further details in the record
Husband Denomination RC
Husband Marital Status BA
Wife Denomination RC
Wife Marital Status S
Witness 1 RICHARD BYRNE
Witness 2 TERESA BYRNE
About the record
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
N/R N/R N/R DU-RC-MA-5761

The church register page containing this record has not yet been imaged.

 

[JimmyFlorus]

I think the first one is the right one.

Can you find anything of the yeare 1890 of Maragret Graham and Charles Firth?

 

[DaveHam9]

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Marriages Dec Qtr 1890 - Hunslet 9b 557
FIRTH Charles
GRAHAM Margaret

 

[Ellie7]

JOHN MATTHEWGRAHAM Birth year 1872 Birth quarter 4 Registration month -Mother's maiden name Grady District Rotherham County Yorkshire Country England

 

[Ellie7]

Record Transcription:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, Dog Inn Yard, Hunslet, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

James Cordingley Head Widower Male 36 1845 Carter Leeds, Yorkshire,England
MargaretGrahamDaughterSingleFemale91872ScholarLeeds, Yorkshire, EnglandJohnGrahamSonSingleMale81873ScholarLeeds, Yorkshire, EnglandJamesGrahamSonSingleMale31878ScholarLeeds, Yorkshire, EnglandJames WChadwickSonSingleMale51876ScholarLeeds, Yorkshire, England

 

[Ellie7]

Name: John M GrahamDeath Age: 56Birth Date: abt 1875Registration Date: Jul 1931
[Aug 1931]
[Sep 1931] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-SepRegistration district: Leeds NorthInferred County: Yorkshire West RidingVolume: 9bPage: 236

 

[DaveHam9]

Link for 1881 census Ellie7 posted

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27T-869H

1891
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7KSH-FMM


James and William are a bit of a puzzle.

No birth reg in RD Hunslet abt 1875 for a William Graham or a James Graham abt 1878.

 

[DaveHam9]

Possible

Deaths Sep Qtr 1879
Graham Matthew 40 Bradford, Y. 9b 31

Deaths Dec Qtr 1879
Graham Elizabeth 31 Bradford, Y. 9b 110

 

[JimmyFlorus]

i could be possible becaus when there daughter margaret married my great-great-ganddad her father was deceased and ther marriage was in 1890

 

[JimmyFlorus]

Name: John M GrahamDeath Age: 56Birth Date: abt 1875Registration Date: Jul 1931
[Aug 1931]
[Sep 1931] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-SepRegistration district: Leeds NorthInferred County: Yorkshire West RidingVolume: 9bPage: 236

I think this is the John M Graham i looking for not sure but all the details match