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Margaret GRUNDISTONE

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Margaret Grundistone c. 29 Oct 1748 Scoonie, Fife
James Grundistone & Bethia Brabenier
Batch: C114562

Hugh Grundistone
Birth Date: 18 Apr 1745
Birth Place: Scoonie, Fife
Father: James Grundistone
Mother: Bethia Brabenier

Jean Grundistone
Baptism Date: 29 Oct 1748
Baptism Place: Scoonie, Fife
Father: James Grundistone
Mother: Bethia Brabenier
[Bap. same day as Margaret]


Margaret Grundiston
Marriage Date: 6 Dec 1776
Marriage Place: Scoonie, Fife, Scotland
Spouse: Peter Thallan


Was expecting the marriage to be to a David SWAN.

Henry Swan b. 31 Dec 1780 c. 7 Jun 1781 Markinch, Fife
David SWAN & Margaret GROUNDIESTONE
Batch: C114475

James SWAN b. 29 Sep 1782 c. 29 Sep 1782 Markinch, Fife
David SWAN & Margaret GROUNDIESTONE
Batch: C114475

Andrew SWAN b. 11 Jul 1786 c. 23 Jul 1786 Markinch, Fife
David SWAN & Margaret GROUNDIESTON
Batch: C114475

No more children ? so a death for Margaret ???

Margaret Thallan looks to have died in Kilmany Parish 1787, looks like 7 Dec on the image (parish entry), no age given.
 
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Margaret would most likely have been buried under her maiden name not Thallan.

There are two buried Kettle

02/11/1790 GRINDISTONE MARGARET ----- F KETTLE /FIFE 435/00 0050 0302
13 19/08/1794 GRINDISTONE MARGARET ----- F KETTLE /FIFE 435/00 0050

Can't find a death for Peter Thallan to leave her free to marry Mr Swan Do you know the Swan is right or that your Mgt's parents were James and Bethia:eek:

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Thanks Barbara.

I added the Quote tags in post #1 as it was something I was given.

Working backwards from my great-great grandmother:

09/07/1816 SWAN CATHRINE ANGUS JAMES SWAN/MARGARET STEWART FR2922 F DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0090 0446

Cathrine Angus SWAN b. 9 Jul 1816 Dunfermline, Fife
James SWAN & Margaret STEWART
Batch: C119501

James SWAN & Margaret STEUART
11 Jan 1804 Dunfermline, Fife
Batch: M100121


11/05/1833 SANDS WILLIAM CATHARINE ANGUS/SWAN FR4688 M Dunfermline /FIFE 424/ 0160 0323

1849 Arrival Sydney
27 Sands
William 38 Carpenter Torreburn Fife James & Elizabeth Dunfermline C. of Sct. Both None Good None
Katron 34 House Servant Dunfermline James & Margaret Swan Father lives at Dunfermline C. of Sct. Both None Good None

So a James SWAN was living in Dunfermline as of 1849. No occupation for James in the shipping record.
 
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James SWAN b. 29 Sep 1782 c. 29 Sep 1782 Markinch, Fife
David SWAN & Margaret GROUNDIESTONE
Batch: C114475

1841
Piece: SCT1841/424 Place: Dunfermline -Fife Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Dunfermline
Folio: 424 Page: 1
Address: New Row
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SWAN James M 55 Pattern Card Cutter Fife
SWAN William M 30 Pattern Card Cutter Fife
Mary Morison 20 Female Servant Fife

1851
Piece: SCT1851/424 Place: Dunfermline -Fife Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Dunfermline
Folio: 0 Page: 11 Schedule: 40
Address: 6 New Row
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SWAN James Head W M 76 [67] Damask Cotton Card Cutter Fife - Markinch
SWAN William Son U M 40 Damask Cotton Card Cutter Fife - Dunfermline
MORRISON Mary Servnt U F 30 Fife - Auchtertool

1861
Dunfirmline Burgh
County: Fife
Address: New Row St
James Swan 78 Pattern Card Cutter Mittown-Babgoner, Fifeshire [Milton of Balgonie]
William Swan son 50 Pattern Card Cutter (Emp 3 female Sor) Dunfirmline


Death: 30 Sep 1864; New Row, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; James Swan; pattern card cutter; widower of Margaret Stewart; age 82; parents David Swan, brewer, deceased and Margaret Swan M.S. Grandison, deceased; cause of death Neuralgia for months, pneumonia for 5 days; witness William Swan, son.


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Barbara, I have nothing to say the Scoonie, Fife Margaret is the right one.

Buried under her maiden name up to what sort of date?

I have burials from OPR for Torryburn such as this one - maiden name ELDER

OPR 458 Sands Margt ELDE:---- Torryburn d. 14 Jun 1742 -------- wi David Sands

I can't find any more SWAN children suggesting a death for Margaret.

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Even now Dave. All our burials and gravestones are in the wife's maiden name. You never really lose in Scotland.

It looks like there just aren't records in the parish registers for this family so gravestones might be the best place to look if you can. Local FHS?

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Thanks Barbara.

William WESTWATER & Mary PRIMROSE
19 Nov 1757 Torryburn, Fife
Batch: M114586

So entries such as this have been modified.

OPR WESTWATER Mary PRIM: Torryburn bu 23 Sep 1810 wi Wm Westwater


Re Grundistone from Scoonie I notice Leven is not that far from Milton of Balgonie and then to Markinch. I think I have the right James SWAN and his death showing his mother as Margaret Grandison. Not that common a name but again records of baptism could be missing for one not Scoonie.

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nothing is a hard and fast rule and usually gravestones are under the wife's own name but deaths are a bit hit and miss as you know and if the wife was not from that area whoever noted the death may have known the husband's family better so put it under that. Never said it was easy!

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Yes, not always easy. I know the date in the index can be either date of death or date of burial or date the mort cloth was hired.

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