Margaret HAMILTON married John McCOUBRIE 1853

[DaveHam9]

Margaret HAMILTON b. abt 1832 Down or Antrim ? d. Oct 1886 Ballarat East, Victoria, Aust.

Death Reg# 11639/1886 McCoubrie Margaret age 54 - parents James Hamilton & Ellen Newell - Ballarat East

Margaret McCoubrie, a widow aged 54 was buried in the Ballarat New Cemetery 11 October 1886 last address Glen Park, Bungaree. Presb Section 12 Grave 24. She is in the same grave as James McCoubrie aged 19 buried 17 February 1872.

Marriage
Miss Margaret HAMILTON Magheradrool daughter of James Hamilton aged 20 married John McCoubrie 21 Jan 1853

McCoubrie John 1853 Parish: MAGHERADROOL (PR)

Only child found so far:

James b. abt 1853 Belfast (according to death reg) d. 1872 Ballarat, Victoria

James' last address Lyons Street Ballarat.
Occupation Draper

Death Reg# 287
Surname: MCCOUBRIE
Given Names: James
Event: Death
Father: John Alexander
Mother: Margaret
Age: 19
***: Male
Birth Place: BELFAST
Death Place: BALLARAT
Year: 1872
Reg Number: 287

This is the only one that seems to match:

Church Baptism McCoubrie James 1853 Co. Antrim
McCoubrie James 1853 Parish: ST ANNE'S, SHANKILL (CI)
However it gives 'no match' if I enter any of the following for father's name: John, Jo, Alex, Alexr, Alexander.

I can't find a birth in Ireland or a death in Ireland or Australia for John (middle name possibly Alexander) McCoubrie (yes I know there are many variations of this family name), nor can I find a shipping record for the family except for this possible one:

Index to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923

Family First Name Age Month Year Ship Port Fiche Page
NOV 1863 COMMODORE PERRY B 226 006
MCCOMBRIE JAMES 9
MCCOMBRIE LINDEN 7
MCCOMBRIE MARGT 32

There is no sign of a birth in Ireland or a marriage or a death in Victoria for Linden. I can't even tell if that is a different family possibly even from Scotland.

Margaret's father James HAMILTON died about 1867 and her mother Ellen/Helen (nee NEWELL) also about 1867. I don't know where they may have married, Antrim or Down and I'd guess they both died in Down. It seems James and his sons were farmers in Ballykine. I have more information on two of the sons, John and William, which I can supply if it will help.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Margaret's brother John arrived in Victoria earlier. He had spent some time in the R.I.C.

Service Number: 18210
Name: HAMILTON, John
Age when joining: 18 years
Height: 5 feet 7 ¾ inches
Native County: Down
Religion: Pres.
Date of Marriage:
Native Co. of Wife:
Recommended by: S.I. Stafford
Trade or Calling: Labourer
Date of Appointment: 14 April 1854
Allocations: Fermanagh (6 Aug 1854) Reserve ( 1 Nov 1856) Armagh (5 Feb 1858)
Promotions or Demotions: 1st sub constable (1 Oct 1854)
Rewards
Punishments
Discharge: Resigned
Discharge Date: 31 August 1858
Injuries:
Remarks: "to emigrate to Australia"

John was born on 1 Jan 1836 according to his Police service record in Victoria. He joined the Mounted Police at Lexton on 12 Mar 1860. He had been in Victoria for some time before he applied but I can't find his arrival on shipping records.

I presume he was born in Down or Antrim to parents James and Ellen/Helen NEWELL. I am hoping this will lead me to a parish/townland.

John's brother William joined the R.I.C. in 1846 and he was recommended by the Rev John SHAW of First Presbyterian Church Ballynahinch. Rev Shaw was minister there for almost 39 years. From the Gravestone Inscriptions, Co Down Vol 9, Baronies of Lecale & Kinelarty, "Shaw Rev John who fell asleep 29 March 1870..."

So my question is, who is 'S.I. Stafford' in April 1854 Co Down? Besides ministers, who recommended young men when they applied to join the service?

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Running No 1536 9 October 1886 Glen Park Shire of Bungaree County Grant - Margaret McCoubrie Female 54 years - Exhaustion Hydatid of Lungs and Liver 12 months Dr Womanki ? 22 September 1886 - James Hamilton Farmer Ellen Hamilton MS Newell - 11639 - John Morris Assistant Undertaker employed at Funeral Ballarat East Wm D McKee 11 October 1886 Ballarat East - 11 October 1886 Cemetery Ballaarat C Morris - Carter McSully ? John Morris - Ballynahinch Co Down Ireland 20 years in Victoria - Ballynahinch Co Down Ireland of 22 years John Alexander McCoubrie - James deceased Linden 25 years

Margaret McCoubrie, a widow aged 54 was buried in the Ballarat New Cemetery 11 October 1886 last address Glen Park, Bungaree. Presb Section 12 Grave 24. She is in the same grave as James McCoubrie aged 19 buried 17 February 1872.

I'd better think of some questions.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I was wondering if the birth of Linden McCOUBRIE about 1861 might be in the Belfast newspaper.

His brother James was born in Belfast according to his death reg so Linden may have been also.

Surname: MCCOUBRIE
Given Names: James
Event: Death
Father: John Alexander
Mother: Margaret
Age: 19
***: Male
Birth Place: BELFAST
Death Place: BALLARAT
Year: 1872
Reg Number: 287

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi dave


GUESS WHAT I can't believe there is not even one McCoubrie or McCoubrey. Do you know of any other variants.

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Helllo crankypants,

Thanks for looking. McOUBRIE, McOMBRIE, McCOMBRIE (as in the shipping record - which I dismissed for a long time not knowing about Linden until I got a copy of Margaret's death certificate a few days ago)


This may be James' birth:

Church Baptism McCoubrie James 1853 Co. Antrim
McCoubrie James 1853 Parish: ST ANNE'S, SHANKILL (CI)


Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Nothing yet but I did a search excluding the Mc and found the surname COUBRIE & COMBRIE. (just a scanning issue not recognising the Mc).

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks for looking. Linden is a real mystery. He appears in the shipping record and then aged 25 in 1886 on his mother's death certificate. So far nothing else can be found anywhere in Australia.

Regards,

Dave