Maria JACK nee JOHNS

[DaveHam9]

2nd Marriage 26 Dec 1878/C0462 Jack William - Johns Maria

Death 18 May 1910/C0564 Jack William - ** born Scotland aged 76

Inscription for William Jack
Cemetery: Cairns Pioneer
Family Name: Jack
Given Names: William
Birth Date:
Death Date: 1910
Age: 76y
Remarks: b. Paisley Scot; parents unk
Portion:
Row:

The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld. : 1874 - 1954) - Wednesday 25 May 1910 p.3
The Walsh and Tinaroo District
(For the "N.Q. Register")
(By "Cuprite.")
CHILLAGOE, May 18.
Death has removed one of the pioneers of the district in the person of Mr. William Jack, senior partner of the firm of Jack and Newell, who passed away at Cairns early this morning.
... Mr. Jack worked at Tinaroo Creek, near Mareeba in the latter part of the 70's, and was associated with his partner, Mr. Jno. Newell and others in the discovery of the Herberton Tin Field.
... He leaves a widow (his second wife), and two daughters, Mrs. Jno. Newell and Mrs. A. Linedale.

Maria died ?

 

[DaveHam9]

Just found this.

Maryborough Chronicle, Wide Bay and Burnett Advertiser (Qld. : 1860 - 1947) -Tuesday 9 July 1878 p.2
Inquiry before the Immigration Board.
n Inquiry into the charge preferred by the Matron against the Surgeon-Superintendent of the 'Glamis' immigration ship, which recently arrived at this port, was commenced yesterday morning, by the Immigration Board. ...
...
Maria Johns was a single girl, and an immigrant by the 'Glamis' - saw the doctor every day during the voyage out ; never saw him drunk or unfit or incapable of doing his duty ; remember the matron sending for the doctor to see me ; he was not drunk on that occasion.


JOHN Maria 17 'Glamis' 30 May 1878 1525 18477 Z1959 M1698

The .pdf file loads but is blank. Wonder if that is related to the other problem and it's a library .dll file on my hard disk that is corrupt. ???

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 15 Nov 1922/C04073 Jack Maria - George Cail - Sharon Bellows


Marriages Sep Qtr 1847
Cail George Henry Southampton 7 295
Bellows Sharon Southampton 7 295

Marriage 1878/C0648 Tom Jack - Maria Cail

 

[horse]

Maria Johns was a single girl, and an immigrant by the 'Glamis' - saw the doctor every day during the voyage out ; never saw him drunk or unfit or incapable of doing his duty ; remember the matron sending for the doctor to see me ; he was not drunk on that occasion.


JOHN Maria 17 'Glamis' 30 May 1878 1525 18477 Z1959 M1698

The .pdf file loads but is blank. Wonder if that is related to the other problem and it's a library .dll file on my hard disk that is corrupt. ???

I can't get the image of this, Dave.. So can't check

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Ruled one death out but can't find a remarriage or a death for Maria.

JOHN or JOHNS and Wales or Cornwall. ?? I have an Elizabeth JOHN in early 1700s in Cornwall.

Dave

 

[horse]

I can't see them or Maria in the E/R's, there is a Maria in 1919 and a death 1922, but doesn't appear to fit

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

1922 death is ruled out.

William is in the Cairns Pioneer Cemetery.

No Maria in that cemetery.

 

[horse]

JOHN Maria 17 'Glamis' 30 May 1878 1525 18477 Z1959 M1698

The .pdf file loads but is blank. Wonder if that is related to the other problem and it's a library .dll file on my hard disk that is corrupt. ???

Will you be able to get anything from the library on this? It does look to be the only real lead at present.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Not a thing from the library.

Even if the image loaded it would only list what sort of immigrant and port. Queensland images have no info re origin or trade or parents.

 

[DaveHam9]

Cemetery: Cairns Pioneer QLD
Surname: Jack
Given Names:
Birth Date: 1864
Death Date: 1914
Gender: Unknown


No death in 1914 in the index.

1913/C04604 Jack - Jack - - ** born Java aged 30 years ** outside Brisbane

1915/B22134 Jack Alfred Gordon - Herbert George Jack - Mary Elizabeth Edgar ** a Brisbane one and also not late 1914 but a 1915 death.

 

[horse]

Yeah, we've looked at these before, just checking through some old posts...

 

[horse]

Picked this up on a cemetery list where William is, I think. There may be a Maria there if you can decipher it... I'll email it

Geoff

 

[horse]

Oh! Just realised, you can see it here, use this link and click next

http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=8760045

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

What is the point of that site posting that image when you can't read it.

If that is Maria then there is no reg as JACK.

 

[horse]

What is the point of that site posting that image when you can't read it.

If that is Maria then there is no reg as JACK.

Not too helpful

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths in 1914 for 48x Maria - none with father's surname as JOHN(S)

 

[horse]

Interesting how Wiliam's daughters/husbands and even the Newells can be seen in the occasional E/R, but not William or Maria. In fact, out of the 3 or 4 trees none give their marriage a mention.

Geoff

 

[Bootzy]

Hi Dave,
have you seen this?
http://mbahistsoc.org.au/Jack-&-Newell/Jack-&-Newell/jack-&-newell.htm

http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/newell-john-4293
Obit on John Newell in Townsville Bulletin Tues 9 Aug 1932

Departing Mr & Mrs Jack in Morning Post Tuesday 6 May 1902

info on his daughter Janet Newell - Cairns Post Thursday 1 Jan 1948

The only ER I can see for Maria Jack is on her own at Childers and found a death for a Maria Jack buried at Apple tree Creek Cemetery Qld. 1922 which is situated 6 km north of Childers.

regards
Val

 

[Bootzy]

Hi Dave,
that Maria Jack in Childers isn't the one, her parents are different.

In The Brisbane Courier Mon 21 Aug 1911 re For the Estate of the Late Mr William Jack, probate was granted to John Newell and John Moffat - no mention of wife.

Seems strange as all the articles written on "Willie" Jack just makes reference as if oh by the way here's Mrs Jack his 2nd wife full stop but in his departing article for going around the world trip just seems to make reference "he will be going here and there" not as they as in couple.. maybe this Maria was not warmly welcomed by the family...

I did see a UK incoming for a Mrs Jack departing Brisbane for London late 1910 - could she have returned to UK after William's death..

Willie Jack's other daughter - Isabella Jack married Anthony Theodore Linedale in Qld in 1892 (his Orbit in T'ville Bulletin Tues 23 March 1943) and she died 1920 (parents William Jack & Sarah Blackley)
regards
Val

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Yes, lots of mentions of the Newells. You might be right re Maria.

Still got the puzzle of the JACK burial in 1914 with no death reg.

Dave