Maria JOHNS

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 26 Dec 1878/C0462 Jack William - Johns Maria

The Brisbane Courier (Qld.) - Sat 18 Jan 1879 p.4
MARRIAGES
JACK - JOHNS.-On the 26th December, at St. Paul's Church, Ipswich, by the Rev. J. H. Zillman, William Jack, of Brisbane, to Maria, youngest daughter of William Johns, Esq. Portsmouth, England.

Looking for anything more on Maria. No birth, arrival or death yet found.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Found this on Anc. I couldn't see it on the old arrivals 1848-1912.. She didn't marry until December

Queensland, Australia, Immigration Indexes, 1848-1972:
Maria Johns
Arrival Date: 1878
Arrival Place: Queensland
Ship: Glamis
Mess No Category: Single Women 4
Title: Assistant Immigration Agent Maryborough 1875 to 1884
Item ID: 18418
Prev Sys Loc: IMA3/18Microfilm: Z6612

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

The Maryborough ones are separate from the general Assisted 1848-... list.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Year: 1878
Mess No: 4
Type: Single Women
Page: null
QSA Ref: IMA3/18
Item ID: 18418
MFilm No: Z6612
Series ID: 13062
Notes:
Description: Registers of immigrant names, ship names and arrival dates, and rations issued
Item details
Price: $7.55

 

[horse]

So, nothing more about her

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Father is William of Portsmouth. That's new this time around.

I can't find her with her father in Hampshire in 1841.

Only 2x William in 1841 - aged 15 and 21.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

William Jack born 1833 but Maria would be much younger probably.

Youngest daughter of William, Esq. Does not say late.

FS has no baptisms in Hampshire for Johns with father = William 1835 - 1855.

No births in Hampshire on FreeBMD for Maria Johns to 1860.

 

[DaveHam9]

The only one old enough in 1881 but he is a labourer.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q274-X2FW

No death after 1878 that looks to fit for William.

 

[Bootzy]

Tree suggests that Maria died Feb 1891 Edingburgh – found it on Trove

The Brisbane Courier Mon 16 March 1891
JACK – On the 2nd February at Edinburgh Scotland, after a painful operation, Maria the beloved wife of Mr William Jack of Messrs Jack & Mckenzie, Drapers Queen street.

There is a Maria John age 17 departing London for Maryborough arriving 30 May 1878 on ship “Glamis” - Qld Passenger List

On William’s orbit The Telegraph Wed 10 Feb 1937 he and late wife did go over to UK but in 1923, possibly his 3rd wife..

The Courier Mail Thu 11 Feb 1937
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36870771?searchTerm=william%20jack&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland|||l-decade=193|||l-year=1937|||l-month=2
says William born Scotland

for 3rd wife – The Telegraph Fri 1 Nov 1935 – Probate
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/179951529?searchTerm=mary%20ann%20smith%20jack&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland|||l-decade=193|||l-year=1935

and William’s remarriage The Telegraph Mon 3 Aug 1891
JACK – LESLIE – On July 29 at the residence of the bride’s parents, Stanley terrace, Taringa by the Rev Richard Kerr, William Jack Brisbane to Mary eldest daughter of Mr William Leslie

 

[solidrock2]

She was 17 when she arrived so born c1861.

JOHNS, MARIA mmn INCH GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in TRURO Volume 05C Page 198

Marriages Jun 1840
JOHNS William Truro 9317
INCH Ann Truro 9317

 

[solidrock2]

GLAMIS 1878 Voyage to Maryborough

 

[Bootzy]

Death of William’s 1st wife (married Dec 1873 South Leigh Scotland – Margaret Ann McLean)


The Brisbane Courier – Tue 20 March 1877 – age 20 and just after childbirth
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1362270?searchTerm=margaret%20jack&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland|||l-decade=187|||l-year=1877

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Cemetery: Cairns Pioneer QLD
JACK -
Birth Date: 1864
Death Date: 1914
Gender: Unknown

No death in 1914 in the index.

Thanks Keith.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

That's not his first wife. Sarah died on the vessel on the way to Qld.

It's a marriage I didn't have then. Also the last one. I had two out of four.

 

[Bootzy]

Death of William’s 1st wife (married Dec 1873 South Leigh Scotland – Margaret Ann McLean)
The Brisbane Courier – Tue 20 March 1877 – age 20 and just after childbirth
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1362270?searchTerm=margaret%20jack&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland|||l-decade=187|||l-year=1877

they had a son Alexander McLean Jack b 25 Nov 1873 Leith Scotland – died 10 June 1968 Brisbane – correct parents – reg 1968/B/97829 – he married Mary Ann Aston 14 Oct 1896 Qld.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/172139755?searchTerm=jack%20-%20aston&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland|||l-decade=189|||l-year=1896

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find William & Ann in 1841 yet.

JOHNS, MARY JANE - INCH
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in TRURO UNION Volume 09 Page 329

JOHNS, WILLIAM RICHARD - INCH
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in TRURO UNION Volume 09 Page 325

 

[DaveHam9]

Death of William’s 1st wife (married Dec 1873 South Leigh Scotland – Margaret Ann McLean)
The Brisbane Courier – Tue 20 March 1877 – age 20 and just after childbirth
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1362270?searchTerm=margaret%20jack&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland|||l-decade=187|||l-year=1877

they had a son Alexander McLean Jack b 25 Nov 1873 Leith Scotland – died 10 June 1968 Brisbane – correct parents – reg 1968/B/97829 – he married Mary Ann Aston 14 Oct 1896 Qld.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/172139755?searchTerm=jack%20-%20aston&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland|||l-decade=189|||l-year=1896

Something is not right Val.

First wife.
1861 JACK WILLIAM - BLACKLEY SARAH 573/1 73 Paisley High Church

Page 37
1861 Marriages in the Parish of High Church in the Burgh of Paisley
No. 73 1861 August Eighth 54 Wellmeadow Street Paisley After Banns according to the forms of the Congregationalists
[signed] William Jack Grocer Bachelor - 26 - 33 George Street Paisley - Alexander Jack Weaver (deceased) Isabella Jack M.S. Graham (deceased)
[signed] Sarah Blackley Mill Worker Spinster - 21 - 57 Broomlands Street Paisley - John Blackley Mason Isabella Blackley M.S. McGuire
[signed] John H. Lochore Minister of the Tabernacle, Paisley
[signed] Robert Young, Witness, [signed] Mary Blackley, Witness
1861 August 10th at Paisley John McIntyre Assistant Registrar


Two daughters Isabella and Janet.

 

[DaveHam9]

This has to get sorted because this is the correct death.

Death# 1910/C0564 Jack William - * born Scotland aged 76

The Bundaberg Mail and Burnett Advertiser (Qld.) - Fri 20 May 1910 p.3
Mainly About People
The sad news has been received from Cairns of the death at Herberton, of Mr. William Jack, senior member of the firm of Jack and Newell, at the age of 76 years, after a fortnight's Illness. He was a sufferer for the past 50 years from asthma. His death is deeply regretted by all.

 

[DaveHam9]

My William was not a draper and not associated with this firm.

The Brisbane Courier Mon 16 March 1891
JACK – On the 2nd February at Edinburgh Scotland, after a painful operation, Maria the beloved wife of Mr William Jack of Messrs Jack & Mckenzie, Drapers Queen street.

He married twice. Once in Scotland and once in Qld. But it seems not to Maria Johns.

 

[Bootzy]

William Jack b 1847 – died 1937/B/34452 – parents = Elizabeth Blackie & Andrew Jack