Maria WATERS

[DaveHam9]

1841
Civil Parish: St Andrew the Great
County: Cambridgeshire
Registration District: Cambridge
Sub-RD: St. Andrew the Great
Maria Waters 16 FS (female servant to Catherine Taylor)
All born in county

I'd like the full household and the census ref please.

Dave

 

[horse]

She appears to be on her own. I found Catherine Taylor on the image, I've included those from her down to Maria W.. The image is a poor copy

ED: 8; Piece: 85; Book: 4; Folio: 10; Page: 15

Catherine Taylor 50
Ann Mansfield 21

Joseph Clarke 18
Maria Clarke 16

Maria Waters 16 [ F.S.]

All BIC.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Married 25/05/1850 in Weston Colville as William 35 widr son of Thomas to Maria 25 dau. of Phillip

I have 1851 and they arrived in NSW in 1854.

Arrived 18 Aug 1854
William 27 Lab Cambridge Thos. and Anne mother in Cam. Primitive Methodist No None Good None
Maria 28 - Cambridge Philip and Ann Waters mother in Cam. Primitive Methodist Read

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

That implies Philip had died by 1854.

The census ref is missing something:

1841
HO107/71/6/7
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridge
Registration District: Linton
Sub-RD: Balsham
Address: Finckley Gate
Philip Waters 40 Ag. lab
Ann Waters 40
John Waters 15 Ag. lab
Emma Waters 8
Francis 6
Mary 1

1851
HO107 Piece 1761 Folio 455 Page 2
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridge
Registration District: Linton
Sub-RD: Duxford
Address: Weston Green
Philip Waters Head 52 Ag. lab Weston
Ann Wife 52 Weston
Mary dau 10
John Waters Head 27 Ag. lab Weston
------ (transcribed as John, looks like John on the image)
Waters Wife 23 Weston
James son 9 Weston

1861
RG9 Piece 1030 Folio 73 Page 21
...
Philip Waters Head 62 Agricultural Labourer Fulbourn Cambridgeshire
Ann Waters Wife 62 Weston Colville Cambridgeshire
Mary Waters Daughter 20 Weston Colville Cambridgeshire
Esther Waters Grand Daughter 8 Scholar Weston Colville Cambridgeshire

I take it the Parish and RD are as 1851?

 

[horse]

The census ref is missing something:

Which one?

 

[DaveHam9]

11 Aug 1865
Philip WATERS 65
Weston Colville, Blessed Virgin


Philip's parents:
Philip Waters & Mary Crask
30 June 1799 All Saints Fulbourn, Cambridge

Something missing with this ref too:

1841
HO107/71/4/2 ?
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridgeshire
Registration District: Linton
Sub-RD Balsham
Address: Finckley Gate
Mary Walter 60 Cambridgeshire

1851
HO107 Piece 1759 Folio 854 Page 3
Civil Parish: Trumpington
County: Cambridgeshire
Registration District: Chesterton
Sub-RD: Willingham
ED: 14
Address:
Richard Horner Head 45 Trumpington, Cambridgeshire
Martha Horner Wife 43 Weston
Mary Waters Mother 74 Bottisham, Cambridgeshire

1861
RG9 Piece 1030 Folio 66 Page 7
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridgeshire
Registration District: Linton
Sub-RD: Balsham
Address:
Elizabeth Shipp 59 Weston Colville
Peter son 18 ? 19 ? Ag lab Weston Colville
Mary Waters mother/Wid 84 Bottisham Lood Cambridgeshire

Deaths Dec 1867
Waters Mary 92 Linton 3b 315

16 Dec 1867
Mary WATERS 93
Weston Colville, Blessed Virgin

I have a sister to Maria as Mary but I don't have one as Martha.

Mary WATERS
Birth: 29 Jun 1828 Weston Colville, Cambridge, England
Death: 24 Jul 1829

 

[DaveHam9]

Which one?

1841 probably missing book. Piece = 71 and folio probably 6 and page probably 2.

 

[horse]

1841 probably missing book. Piece = 71 and folio probably 6 and page probably 2.

Transcribed as Wallas..

Ref: Piece: 71; Book: 10; Folio: 6; Page Number: 7

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't see a baptism for Martha or the marriage to Richard HORNER.


Mary Crask
christening: 23 November 1777 Bottisham, Cambridge, England
father: Saml. Crask
mother: Susannah

 

[DaveHam9]

County Cambridgeshire
Place Cambridge
Church St Andrew the Less
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 21 Sep 1833
GroomForename Richard
GroomSurname HORNER
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Martha
BrideSurname WATERS
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename
WitnessOneSurname
WitnessTwoForename
WitnessTwoSurname
Notes
FileNumber 3443


I can't find a baptism for Martha.

 

[horse]

Richard Horner
Marriage Date: 21 Sep 1833
Marriage Place: Barnwell,Cambridge,England
Spouse: Martha Waters
FHL Film Number: 496705

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Philip senior:

21 Jan 1841
Philip WATERS 67
Weston Colville, Blessed Virgin


County Cambridgeshire
Place Fulbourn
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 21 Mar 1773
Forename Philip
*** M
FatherForename Francis
MotherForename Martha
FatherSurname WATERS
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 21871

 

[DaveHam9]

Philip junior:

County Cambridgeshire
Place Fulbourn
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 23 Mar 1800
Forename Philip
*** M
FatherForename Philip
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname WATERS
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 21871


Looks as though we are out of luck re Martha unless we can find someone with the discs.

 

[horse]

Martha Waters
Christening Date: 25 Nov 1806
Christening Place: Haddenham, Cambridgeshire, England
Father: Charles Waters
Mother: Sarah

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Must be a sister or cousin but no baptism for Ann:

County Cambridgeshire
Place Fulbourn
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 07 Sep 1800
Forename Jane
*** F
FatherForename John
MotherForename Sarah
FatherSurname MISSEN
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes John Missen Snr.
FileNumber 21871


Phillip WATERS & Ann MISSEN
10 Nov 1821 Weston Colville, Cambridgeshire

23 Jul 1863
Ann WATERS 63
Weston Colville, Blessed Virgin

 

[horse]

Martha Waters
Christening Date: 25 Nov 1806
Christening Place: Haddenham, Cambridgeshire, England
Father: Charles Waters
Mother: Sarah

Geoff

Probably the wrong one

 

[DaveHam9]

Martha Waters
Christening Date: 25 Nov 1806
Christening Place: Haddenham, Cambridgeshire, England
Father: Charles Waters
Mother: Sarah

Geoff

Parents of Martha should be Philip senior and Mary CRASK.

We are missing another of Maria's sisters - Elizabeth

1861
RG9 Piece 1030 Folio 66 Page 7
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridgeshire
Registration District: Linton
Sub-RD: Balsham
Address:
Elizabeth Shipp 59 Weston Colville
Peter son 18 ? 19 ? Ag lab Weston Colville
Mary Waters mother/Wid 84 Bottisham Lood Cambridgeshire

 

[horse]

Parents of Martha should be Philip senior and Mary CRASK.

Yep, corrected that in post #16

 

[DaveHam9]

County Cambridgeshire
Place West Wratting
Church St Andrew
RegisterNumber 62
MarriageDate 25 Jan 1823
GroomForename John
GroomSurname SHIPP
GroomAge
GroomParish Otp
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Elizabeth
BrideSurname WATERS
BrideAge
BrideParish Otp
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Charles
WitnessOneSurname BROWN
WitnessTwoForename William
WitnessTwoSurname NOBLE
Notes Groom & bride both illiterate
FileNumber 32117

 

[DaveHam9]

Probable:

Deaths Sep 1851
SHIP John Linton 14 50


I can't find a baptism for Elizabeth.

So Mary was with one married daughter in 1851 and another one in 1861. I don't think we have 2x Mary as age went up by 10 and same pob - Bottisham.

1851 please Geoff for Elizabeth SHIPP.