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Marian/Mary Ann KILFEDER

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May not be the same one!

Ireland, The Royal Irish Constabulary 1816-1921:
Kilfedder, John
Birth Date/Age: 21
Birthplace: Leitrim
Marriage or Comments: EMIGRATED
Enlisted: 1860
Film #: 856063
Page #: 87C

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Edit: No, age would be about well out..
 

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It's one of them thanks Geoff.

I now have his service number but not a full copy of his service record. I got some in person in Dublin 6 years ago but didn't know at the time there were others to look up. That was in the first few months of work on my tree so it only had a few hundred names not 5000 as it has now.

R.I.C. Service number 26159.
KILFEDDER JNo 21 LEI 1860 Emigrated 6063/87C

Joined 1 Sep 1860, age 21, height 5 feet 10 ΒΌ inches, a Protestant from county Leitrim.
Served in Limerick (1861)
Resigned to emigrate on 28 April 1863.

Can't find a shipping record for John or brother James Michael.
 

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There is this...

John Knox Kilfeder
State: California
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Southern District, Central Division, Los Angeles, California
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 59676

From image:
John Knox Kilfeder, b. 1878 Mohill. Miner, last foreign address; Dublin, Ireland.
Entry into US was NY, Oct 31 1901 per SS Majestic, under the name of John Knox Kifredan [the K is almost unreadable ?].

Mohill is in Co. Leitrim.

I can send you a copy of the image if needed.
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Yes, thanks Geoff.

That must be William's son.

Name: William Kilfedder
Registration District: Mohill
Event Type: DEATHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Oct - Dec 1883
Estimated Birth Year: 1837
Age (at Death): 46
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101592
Volume Number: 3
Page Number: 155
Digital Folder Number: 4200674
Image Number: 00261
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

Church Burial Kilfedder William 1883 Co. Leitrim
Kilfedder William 1883 Parish: MOHILL CHURCH OF IRELAND (CI)

William married in 1864.

name: William Kilfeder
registration district: Manorhamilton
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: 1864
estimated birth year:
age (at death):
mother's maiden name:
film number: 101249
volume number: 12
page number: 231
digital folder number: 4179382
image number: 00328

name: Hannah Flood
registration district: Manorhamilton
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: 1864
estimated birth year:
age (at death):
mother's maiden name:
film number: 101249
volume number: 12
page number: 231
digital folder number: 4179382
image number: 00297
 

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"John Knox (1878 ) was an employee of the Royal Exchange in Sth. William Street, Dublin as a wholesale draper."
 
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Hi Dave

I am descended from Rebecca Kilfeder and Frederick Edwin Turner.

Is is possible your Anne Naughton is Mary Ann Kilfeder b: 18 JAN 1853 of said John and Ann(e) Knox who another contact has said migrated to Australia.

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Yes, Steve.

One of my old contacts said this:

Mary Ann (otherwise known as Annie or Ann/Anne just to confuse everyone) 'married' James Naughton abt 1874 in Victoria possibly but no marriage record has been found.

The system at its leisure will turn your user name green. :)
 

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1903 & 1909 VIC Electoral Roll - Corio - Sunbury
NAUGHTON James, Sunbury, labourer
NAUGHTON Annie, Sunbury, home duties

1914 VIC Electoral Roll - Bourke - Brunswick
NAUGHTON James, 113 Evans st., East Brunswick,
NAUGHTON Annie, 113 Evans st., East Brunswick, home duties

1919 VIC Electoral Roll - Bourke - Brunswick South
NAUGHTON James, 143 Union st. west, Brunswick, nil
NAUGHTON Anne, 143 Union st. west, Brunswick, home duties
NAUGHTON Elsie Mabel, 143 Union st. west, Brunswick, shop

Death
Surname: NAUGHTON
Given Names: James
Father: Naughton James
Mother: Unknown MOORE
Death Place: BWK = Brunswick
Age: 82
Year: 1922
Reg Number: 521
Event: D

Fawkner Memorial Park wishes to advise that the location of the buried remains of the late James Naughton aged 80 are located at Coburg Cemetery ROMAN CATHOLIC: Compartment: CC Grave No: 22. Service date: James 27/01/1922.

Ann was the informant and some things on James death certificate don't add up.

"... died aged 82 in 1922 and lived in Vic. for 69 years - married in Ireland in 1870 ..."

No marriage can be found in Victoria around 1874. Annie has not been found in shipping records. That leaves open the remote possibility they marriaed in Ireland and that we should be searching for her arrival as Naughton.

There are about 5x James Naughton in Victoria including one who seems to have 'married' sister Alice.

Death
Surname: NAUGHTON
Given Names: Alice
Father: Kilfelder Michael
Mother: Mary Ann UNKNOWN
Death Place: BALLT
Age: 80
Year: 1927
Reg Number: 13020
Event: D

Alice was a widow and died in Ballarat Hospital age 80.
Alice was buried on 10 Nov 1927, at Ballarat New Cemetery in Church of England "G", Section 2, Row 1, Grave 23.

So James died before 1927. The James who 'married' Annie died in 1923. If not the same James can another death be found for a james before 9 Nov 1927?

Yes, the informant got the parents wrong but there is other evidence:



Birth
Name: Rebecca Naughton
Father's Name: James Naughton
Mother's Name: Alice Kilfedder
Birth Place: Sandridge, Victoria
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 19144
 
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QLD Birth 29 Apr 1872/B13912 Naughton Anne - James - Alice Kilfedder

Rebecca b. 1874 - mother = Alice

Jas Forristal b. 1877 - mother = Mary Ann

then 1881, 83, 85, 88 - mother = Annie
 

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