Marriage Certificates

[DeniseJD]

Hi

I would like to get the certificate for my Great Grandparents, the bible shows they were married in 1884. They lived in Durham, Tow Law. His name was Francis Hagan, hers was Mary, (maiden name not known yet!) the marriage records show a Francis Hagan in Vol 10a, p 369 in Q3, 1884, Lanchester, Durham. There are several Mary's, two show up on the same Q3, Vol 10a, p 369, one Mary Sherlock, one Mary Stirling. There are also other Mary's but on different page numbers.

If the pages and volumes are the same, is this more likely to be the correct Mary? How would I know for sure before I send for the certificate, or would I not know?

thanks

 

[Robesur]

It will be one of those with the same reference number. Order the certificate using just the one name you know, and that when it comes will give you the answer.

 

[DeniseJD]

The other person that shows up on the same record number is a William Walker. Do you think that either Mary could be my relative and the other Mary married William, no relation? Will I only find out if I order the certificate?

thanks!

 

[DeniseJD]

whoops, I was writing that as you answered! thank you! So, should I not even mention Mary?

 

[p.risboy]

No....is the short answer. But only if you're sure of Francis Hagan.

Good luck, I'm sure you got the right one.

Steve.

 

[sparklingtechie]

whoops, I was writing that as you answered! thank you! So, should I not even mention Mary?

For a marriage cert you need at least the first name of the spouse. If you are unsure of the vo and page just put in the date(year) follow the online instructions and they will search that years and a year either side for you.

 

[p.risboy]

I beg to differ Sparkie, but I've very rarely put in spouse name, and I now think there is an automatic basic search when ordered from the GRO..


Steve.

 

[DeniseJD]

Thanks for your help. I put in the details and it asked me to put in 01/01/year date and said it would search a year either side. I've given the other details.

It's exciting, the idea of getting a certificate which may show the information I want and such a link to the past. Once I have that, I might be able to go back to the next generation!

I tried to find a birth certificate for 1833 but it tells me I cannot search before 1837, is that when they started to issue birth certificates or is that only the ones that are available at the moment?

Denise

 

[sparklingtechie]

I beg to differ Sparkie, but I've very rarely put in spouse name, and I now think there is an automatic basic search when ordered from the GRO..


Steve.

I ordered one today about 2 hours ago and for a marriage cert it would only accept if I put at least the spouses first name. Edited to add..that might have been freeBMD...doh!

 

[sparklingtechie]

Thanks for your help. I put in the details and it asked me to put in 01/01/year date and said it would search a year either side. I've given the other details.

It's exciting, the idea of getting a certificate which may show the information I want and such a link to the past. Once I have that, I might be able to go back to the next generation!

I tried to find a birth certificate for 1833 but it tells me I cannot search before 1837, is that when they started to issue birth certificates or is that only the ones that are available at the moment?

Denise

It is really exciting when you get the cert...I found it made my ancestors feel more like 'real people' to me and the discovery of new names is really cool. You also find out really amazing stuff too. Loads of surprises. ha! 1837 is when the certs were first issued further back than that you need the parish registries or IGI indexes etc. Enjoy your searching

 

[sparklingtechie]

I couldn't help noticing you have a Bennett on yours.. I have a Bennett on my family tree. In mine she is the wife of Ernest Edward Piper born in approx 1870's.

 

[DeniseJD]

Bennett appears on mine in Whittlebury/Lillingstone Dayrell - George and Mary ( I think) b 1817 and 1826, the link is yet to be proved though. Daughter Emily married William Harris in around 1883, who are my GGGranparents. Is there a link there?

I might have discovered a skeleton, birth within months of marriage, good catholic family (tut, tut!) in 1906.

 

[sparklingtechie]

Bennett appears on mine in Whittlebury/Lillingstone Dayrell - George and Mary ( I think) b 1817 and 1826, the link is yet to be proved though. Daughter Emily married William Harris in around 1883, who are my GGGranparents. Is there a link there?

I might have discovered a skeleton, birth within months of marriage, good catholic family (tut, tut!) in 1906.

No link with that at the moment but if I find one I'll let you know...as for skeletons..there's a boat load in mine ha!:2fun::2fun:

 

[DeniseJD]

Now you've got me started back on the Bennett line!

It's so easy to get carried away with this game! I seem to have skipped a generation I think, I'm trying to search and keep coming up with different things. You'd think they would have had the decency to use some different names, instead of calling everyone the same in every new generation!

I've got Emily Bennett b 1864 . Age 7 on 1871 census, with father George Bennett b 1815/6 and 5 other children, no wife. On 1881 with her father only, age 17, then married in 1882 to William Harris. I can't figure out whether George married someone previous to marrying Mary b 1826 in Lillingstone.

Too many Georges for my liking!

What or how can I do this, any tips please? I need to find a good way of recording it all aswell, I have a CD with the tree on it, but I like to write it down as well (pencil and paper is my friend!). Any tips for this as well anyone?

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

I now think there is an automatic basic search

Yes, under the old pricing structure there were different fees depending on the amount or lack of details supplied. Under the new simplified structure a basic search is part of the fee.

Regards,

Dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi Denise

There is a way you can identify who is the wife, if you are lucky.

By looking at 1891 census for Francis and Mary, you can find out Mary's birthplace and age. In this case it is Ireland and 26 (1865) I also noted they had three children Thomas, Francis and Bridget.
Now by looking up 1881 census for Mary Sherlock you will see there is a single girl born 1863 in Ireland living in Durham. Looking at the return, her mother is called Bridget!!
By looking for Mary Stirling born in 1865 does not reveal anyone born in Ireland.

So the chances are that you Mary was Mary Sherlock.

dave

 

[DeniseJD]

thank you Dave, that's brilliant, :biggrin:

this is a great forum.......shame my living family don't share my enthusiasm!