MARTIN family of Bethnal Green

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Deaths Jun 1867
Martin Mary 84 Hackney 1b 253

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 22 August 1867 p.1
DEATHS
On the 3rd June, at Clapton, near London, in full assurance of faith in Christ, MARY MARTIN, aged 84, mother of Mr. William Martin, of Ulladulla, New South Wales, and of Rev. David Martin, of Oxford, and Rev. George Martin, of Lewisham, London, S.E.

David MARTIN b. 10 Sep 1814 c. 4 Jun 1824 St Matthew, Bethnal Green, London

George MARTIN b. 9 Mar 1828 Dr Williams Library, London

1841
Civil Parish: Christ Church Spitalfields
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-RD: Spitalfields
Address: Princes Street, Christchurch, Tower Hamlets
MARTIN, David M 60 1781 Middlesex
MARTIN, Mary F 55 1786 Middlesex
MARTIN, James M 28 1813 Middlesex
MARTIN, George M 13 1828
CROSS, Mary Ann F 17 1824 Middlesex
TYLER, Wm M 28 1813

I'd like a look up please for David in 1841 to start this off.

Regards,

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Dave,
Because of his occupation I can find him easily in later census, a bit harder when he was younger as perhap he had a different occupation. Do you have them because if not we could work backwards from them?

Barbara

 

[barbarajoh]

earliest I am finding is 1851 but then I am in hurry to get to work

David Martin
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Martin
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St George Bloomsbury
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St George Bloomsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 149
Piece: 1507
Folio: 328
Page Number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
David Martin 36
Margaret Martin 34
Oliver P Martin 3
Mary Ann Johnson 23

He was an independent minister of Whitfield chapel at this time.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

When you have time thanks. You may work backwards from deaths of David and George if you like.

The only census I have of all the family is the one in post #1.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Found this on TNA - 1872:

Martin, Rev. George - 101, Manor Road, Kent - Congregational Minister.

I don't have a death for David or George.

 

[trace]

1871 Census 28 St John St, St Giles, Oxford
David Martin 56 Independent Minister b Bethnal Green
Margaret wife 54 b Marylebone
Oliver P son 23 Upholster b Northamptonshire ?Creaton
Marian J dau 19 b Bloomsbury
Grace dau 18 b St Pancras
David B son 13 b St Pancras
Mary A Johnson servant 43

1881 Census 5 Cranford Villas, Norfolk Pl, Cookham
David Martin 66 Independant Minister Retired b Bethnal Green
Margaret wife 64 b Marylebone
David Basil son 23 Undergraduate Oxford b St Pancras
Mary Ann Johnson servant 54
Richard De Clare Yeld visitor 24 Accountant b Sutton Coldfield
Emily Bloomfield widow 43 Servant b Holborn

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello trace,

Thank you very much. Somewhere there is a connection in London before 1841 with the PERDRIAU family. There is a much later connection between the families in NSW but it's believed they knew each other before William arrived in NSW. We may not find any evidence of that early connection.

Regards,

Dave

 

[trace]

possibly 1841 Census Great Creaton, Northamptonshire
David Martin 25 Minister Not born Northants
Catherine Martin 20 Not born Northants

That would indicate that Oliver P was born here and therefore was from David & Catherine.....?????!!!!!!

Birth GRO
Dec qtr 1847 Brixworth 15 203
Oliver Prust Martin

 

[barbarajoh]

C'mon Trace, you have done the easy ones, now help me on the hard ones. I can't find them in 1861 or 1841.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm not much use. :2fun: I have no marriages and no deaths for David or George or spouse. Only the death of their mother Mary that got me going.

I can't see a marriage for David & Catherine.


Possible
Marriages Mar 1851
Martin David St Martin 1 155
Wilkie Margaret St Martins 1 155


Births Mar 1852
MARTIN Marian Jane St Giles 1b 305

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks trace.

No sign of a baptism for Oliver on FS.

 

[trace]

OK Barbara..I've done 1841 - I'll leave you to do 1861 !!!!!!

 

[trace]

1861 Census ST John St, St Giles, Oxford
David Martin 46 Indep Minister b Bethnal Green
Margaret wife 44 b London
Oliver Prust son 13 b Nothamptonshire
Marian Jane dau 9 b London
Grace dau 8 b London
Blanche Wilkie dau 6 b London
David Basil son 3 b London
Mary Ann Johnson servant

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks trace.

Wilkie is correct with that middle name.


Marriages Sep 1850
Martin George Henry Islington 3 270
Wilkes Sophia Islington 3 270

 

[DaveHam9]

1881
name: George Martin
age: 53
gender: Male
birth year: 1828
birthplace: London, Middlesex, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Independent Minister Of Lewisham Rd Congregational Church
address: 101 Manor Rd
census place: St Paul Deptford, Kent, England
record type: Household
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 714 / 64
page number: 25
Household Gender Age
George Martin M 53
spouse Sophia H Martin F 49
child William H Martin M 22
child Frederick E Martin M 20
child Herbert J Martin M 18
child Mary S Martin F 17
child Alice L Martin F 15
child Walter G Martin M 13
child Arthur D Martin M 13
child Alfred S Martin M 9
child Norman Martin M 8
child Frank Martin M 2
Mary A Buttery F 17
Emily Payne F 15

 

[davelambert271]

Hi dave
I found a few births in Bethnal Green - father David, mother Mary
Mary Ann 1810
James Gough 1812
David 1814
Josiah 1816
Catherine 1819
William 1821
Elizabeth 1823
George 1828

I also found a marriage between David and Mary Gough - 1 apr 1805 Hackney, St John, witnesses John Gough and Isaac Martin

dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks dave,

I notice FS seems to be pulling the old site apart. The 1881 census now goes to the new site and does not include the pob and occupation and status of all in the household. You have to click on every member to get their details.

I have the details previously from IGI. I found IGI today not to be working.

Regards,

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

I shall cry. Don't like the new site at all, keep getting American people when I search even tho I specify the parish and country I want.
.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

NEW CONGREGATIONAL CHAPEL AT CHELMSFORD .
The Essex Standard, and General Advertiser for the Eastern Counties (Colchester, England), Friday, June 18, 1858; Issue 1435. 19th Century British Library Newspapers: Part II.

Category: News

"...Rev. George Martin (Pastor)...The "Dedication Prayer" was then offered by the Rev. David Martin (of London), brother of the pastor...


Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
Jackson's Oxford Journal (Oxford, England), Saturday, May 22, 1880; Issue 6636

"PRESENTATION: On Thursday evening the Rev. David Martin, the late minister of the Congregational Chapel, George-street....resignation of the pastorate on account of failing health..."

 

[DaveHam9]

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
Daily News (London, England), Thursday, January 15, 1885; Issue 12094.

Category: Birth, death, marriage notices

"Martin.-January 13, at his residence, 84 Priory-road, West Hamstead, Rev. David Martin, late of Oxford. Aged 70 years. No cards. Friends will please accept this intimation."

Deaths Mar 1885
Martin David 70 Hampstead 1a 484


THE LATE REV. DAVID MARTIN .
Jackson's Oxford Journal (Oxford, England), Saturday, January 24, 1885; Issue 6879.

Category: News