MARTIN family

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

We'll get lucky one day.

Marriages Dec 1845
CHURCH Charity Sophia Hackney 3 155
MARTIN William Hackney 3 155


Births Sep 1846
Martin Emilie Sophia London 2 182

Didn't marry - died 1876 Balmain


Births Sep 1848
Martin Caroline Susannah London 2 181

Didn't marry - died 1939 Chatswood

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1913 N.S.W ELECTORAL ROLL - BALMAIN—BALMAIN POLLING-PLACE
3131 Martin Agnes Mary 31 Booth-street domestic duties
3132 Martin Alice 31 Booth-street governess
3134 Martin Caroline 31 Booth-street teacher
3136 Martin Clara 31 Booth-street domestic duties
3143 Martin Marian 31 Booth-street nurse
247 Martin Eric Claude 31 Booth-street storeman

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Agnes Mary MARTIN b. 1852 d. 1937 Chatswood

Marian Eleanor MARTIN b. 1858 Balmain d. 1939 Chatswood

Gertrude Marguerite MARTIN b. 1860 Ulladulla d. 1948 Chatswood

None of them married.

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Curious. I have no idea who Eric Claude is.

EDIT: A nephew.

Sorry, I missed another sister who also didn't marry. What's going on with those sisters?

Alice Theresa b. 1862 d. 1951 Chatswood.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

I could come up with a long list of reasons why these six smart intelligent women never married. >

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Ok. I'll suggest one. Too busy with careers.

If they are all at the same address just say ditto in the email.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

The nephew leaving the toilet seat up.:biggrin::biggrin:

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I suspect Eric didn't want to live in Griffith with his parents.

We'll get to William Caleb later.

Two sisters DID marry. The same PERDRIAU.

It's said the two families knew each other in London. MARTIN does not sound like a Heugenot name.

http://members.optushome.com.au/ozhug/name.html

MARTIN and MEURANT are on the list.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

We probably looked and gave up in 1841 in London looking for a David & Mary MARTIN with son William b. 1821 Bethnal Green. I don't have the names of any of his siblings but would expect names like Caleb, Hiram, Israel, Jabez, ... if we are lucky.


William Caleb MARTIN b. 1856 Balmain d. 1933 Griffith

married 1888

Catherine Ann ARMSTRONG b. 1862 d. 1943 Griffith

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

David MARTIN b. abt 1781 Bethnal Green

married 1 Apr 1805 in St John's Church, Hackney, England

Mary GOUGH b. abt 1783 Bethnal Green

Children
Mary Ann b. 1810
James Gough b. 1812
David b. 1814
Josiah b. 1816 d. 1884 Milton, NSW
Catherine b. 1819
William b. 1821 ***
Elizabeth b. 1823
George b. 1828

William arrived in Australia between Sep 1848 and Oct 1850 with spouse Charity Sophia b. 1824 and children Emily Sophia b. 1846 and Caroline Susannah b. 1848.


Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Well, I was sort of guessing with the names of the children. The one tree I found certainly helped.

Seems only William and Josiah ended up in NSW.

I'll look now for Josiah in shipping records.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

No luck with shipping records.


You were right. It's 6 not 5.

Clara/Clare Elizabeth MARTIN b. 1865 d. 1962 Chatswood

Please see what you can find after 1913. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1913 N.S.W ELECTORAL ROLL - UPPER HUNTER—SCONE POLLING-PLACE
790 Martin Enid Tyhurst Waverley-street domestic duties
791 Martin Catherine Ann Torilla domestic duties
793 Martin Kathleen Torilla domestic duties
794 Martin Kenneth Bertram Waverley-street farmer
796 Martin William Caleb Torilla dairyman


1841 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Christ Church Spitalfields
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Spitalfields
Address: Princes Street, Christchurch, Tower Hamlets
MARTIN, David M 60 1781 Middlesex
MARTIN, Mary F 55 1786 Middlesex
MARTIN, James M 28 1813 Middlesex
MARTIN, George M 13 1828
CROSS, Mary Ann F 17 1824 Middlesex
TYLER, Wm M 28 1813

Too many William Martin's born c1821 in 1841 to know which one is yours.

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I see what you mean about Catherine / Katherine.

I'd say Catherine is the daughter.

Death # 57094/1971 MARTIN ENID TYHURST WILLIAM CALEB CATHERINE ANNE ST LEONARDS

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Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1913 N.S.W ELECTORAL ROLL - GORDON—GORDON POLLING-PLACE
539 Martin Gertrude Marguerite Ridge-street domestic duties

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Yes, a very common name. I don't have a trade/profession for William.

Residence: 1860-1890 Ulladulla (Milton) and Auburn St Goulburn NSW - Source Page: The Sydney Morning Herald... Saturday 15 November 1884, page 1. Family Notices

I'll have to look that one up.

1870-71 N.S.W Electoral Roll - The Glebe
MARTIN William, Ulladulla, freehold, House Booth-street Balmain

1878-1879 N.S.W Electoral Roll - The Glebe
MARTIN William, Ulladulla, freehold, House Booth-street Balmain

1890-1898 N.S.W Sands Directory
MARTIN W, 31 Booth st., Balmain


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Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 15 November 1884 p.1
MARRIAGES
PERDRIAU-MARTIN.-October 29, at St Saviour's Pro-Cathedral Goulburn, by the Ven Archdeacon Puddicombe, Henry Perdriau, jun. to Lydia daughter of W. Martin, Auburn-street, Goulburn, and niece of the Rev. George Martin, Norwich, England.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 28 December 1899 p.1
DEATHS
MARTIN.-At his late residence, Eltham, Booth-street Balmain, William Martin, in his 78th year.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 22 August 1867 p.1
DEATHS
On the 3rd June, at Clapton, near London, in full assurance of faith in Christ, MARY MARTIN, aged 84, mother of Mr. William Martin, of Ulladulla, New South Wales, and of Rev. David Martin, of Oxford, and Rev. George Martin, of Lewisham, London, S.E.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

The tree has no death for David but indicates he is alive in 1851:

Residence: 1851 Whitechapel, London, England

I presume Mary will be shown as a widow in 1861 then.

Please see if you can verify that. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1851 U.K Census
Civil Parish: Christchurch Spitalfields
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Artillery
Address: 6, Princes Street, Christchurch, Tower Hamlets

MARTIN, David Head Married 70 1781 Weaver Bethnal Green
MARTIN, Mary Wife Married 67 1784 Bethnal Green
HARDFSEUR, Josiah Visitor Unmarried 15 1836 Engineer Braintree


Not sure if the right Mary MARTIN

1861 U.K Census
Civil Parish: West Ham All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
Address: 1, Peker Villas, Albert Place, All Saints Westham

FELGATE, Samuel Head Married 39 1822 Grocer Master Shoreditch, London
FELGATE, Catherine Wife Married 41 1820 Bethnal Green, London
FELGATE, Emily Daughter 9 1852 Scholar Hackney, London
MARTIN, Mary Mother In Law Widow 78 1783 Bethnal Green, London
CRANE, Ann Servant Unmarried 16 1845 Servant Linton, Cambridgeshire

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Only the first three children born in NSW to William & Charity Sophia appear in IGI as extracted births. No place of birth given and St Andrews (possibly Balmain) mentioned for only Alice although the tree has her place of birth as Gundagai. No pob for Agnes and Balmain
for Lydia.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 6 December 1854 p.5
BIRTHS
December 4th, at Balmain, Mrs. William Martin, of a daughter. [Lydia]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 4 August 1876 p.8
DEATHS
PERDRIAU.-July 18, Balmain, Emilie Sophia, aged 29 years, wife of Henry Perdriau, jun.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 4 January 1936 p.14
DEATHS
PERDRIAU.-January 2, 1936, at her residence 67 Bradley's Head road Mosman, Lydia Ann, relict of the late Henry Perdriau and loving stepmother of Edgar, Edie and Horace, and mother of Harry and James Perdriau, Clarice (Mrs. G. E. Browne), Merle (Mrs. G. C. Christie), Vera (Mrs. T. V. Roberts), Alice (Mrs. R. Woodruff) and Elsie (Mrs. A. C. Buckle), aged 81 years, Privately cremated at Northern Suburbs Crematorium, January 3, 1936.

Regards,

Dave