MARWICK/MORWICK family

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

1841
Piece: SCT1841/16 Place: Evie & Rendall -Orkney Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Rendall Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 7 Page: 2
Address: Township Of Isbister
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MORWICK Hugh M 45 Agricultural Labourer Orkney
MORWICK Elizabeth F 45 Orkney
MORWICK James M 14 Orkney
MORWICK George M 10 Orkney
MORWICK Margaret F 4 Orkney

I'd like a look up please for the family in 1851. FreeCEN coverage in 1851 is 7%.

James is the one I'm mainly interested in. His older brother Hugh b. 1822 seems to already be at sea.

20/09/1828 MARWICK JAMES HUGH MARWICK/ELIZABETH SCARTH FR237 M Evie and Rendall /ORKNEY 016/ 0020 0085

Regards,

Dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi dave - not 1851, but I wonder if this is your man in 1901

1901 Scotland Census
about James Marwick Name: James Marwick
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Marwick
Gender: Male
Where born: Frith, Orkney
Registration Number: 16
Registration district: Evie and Rendall
Civil parish: Evie and Rendall
County: Orkney
Address: White-house
Occupation: Farmer

James Marwick 69
Margaret Marwick 58
George Marwick 25
Mary Ann Marwick 28
Jemima Marwick 40
James Marwick 34
Margaret Marwick 35
James William Marwick 2

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello dave,

Thanks for looking but I doubt it, not that so far I have much info on James. I don't have his arrival in Australia but he certainly spent some time there. So it's possible James left Scotland before 1851. I've found these two but need more info on them. Age is out for the first one.

Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871
MORWICK ISABELLA 30 OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 368
MORWICK JAMES 3 OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 368
MORWICK JAMES 35 OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 368
MORWICK MARGARET I OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 368
MORWICK WILLIAM 20 OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 370

MORWICK JAMES 22 MAY 1853 WACOUSTA B 037 004



The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 2 February 1903 p.10
MORWICK.-The friends of Mr. JAMES MORWICK are kindly invited to attend his Funeral which will leave the residence of his BROTHER, Captain Hugh Morwick, Pomona, 150 Beattie-street Balmain, TO-MORROW (Tuesday) AFTERNOON at 2 o'clock for the Presbyterian Cemetery, Field of Mars.

There is one possible alternative and that is the parents are the wrong ones for the James and brother Hugh who ended up in Australia. All references in Australia are to MORWICK but the claimed births are MARWICK.

02/01/1822 MARWICK HUGH HUGH MARWICK/ELIZABETH SCARTH FR237 M Evie and Rendall /ORKNEY 016/ 0020 0085

Hugh named his home in Sydney, Pomona, so that is a clue. Also his parents are Hugh & Elizabeth.

Death # 11721/1906 MORWICK HUGH HUGH ELIZABETH BALMAIN SOUTH

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 31 October 1906
PERSONAL
Captain Hugh Morwick, one of the oldest shipping identities connected with the port of Sydney, passed away at his residence, Pomona Cottage, Beattie-street, Balmain, on Thursday. Born at Pomona, in the Orkney Islands, Captain Morwick was early apprenticed to the sea, and as far back as 65 years ago, paid his first visit to Sydney as an apprentice boy in the brig Falmar.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello dave,

So the question becomes if it's not Elizabeth SCARTH what other Hugh & Elizabeth MORWICK family is there in Orkney?

Marriage
20/03/1821 MARWICK HUGH ELIZABETH SCARTH/ M Evie and Rendall /ORKNEY 016/ 0020 0137


Death
1870 MARWICK HUGH M 75 EVIE AND RENDALL /ORKNEY 016/00 0011

Death
1881 MARWICK ELIZABETH SCARTH F 86 FIRTH AND STENNESS /ORKNEY 017/00 0013

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello dave,

So far I've not been able to find Pomona so I have no idea if it is near Evie or Rendall.

I've had no luck finding another family in 1841 but parents Hugh and Elizabeth both may have died by then so that's not proof there is only one Hugh & Elizabeth.

If some of the references in Australia had Hugh's name as MARWICK I'd not worry so much. MORWICK does seem to be a less common variation. If I have the right parents I wonder why Hugh and James changed the spelling.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

http://www.orkneyjar.com/placenames/pomona.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland,_Orkney

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

No wonder I couldn't find a village of that name. Well it does not help not being the name of a village in sorting out some of the A and O families on Orkney.

I can't find a marriage for another Hugh & Elizabeth so SCARTH might be correct. It makes James a bit younger than expected, b. 1828. Perhaps later in life he pretended for some reason to be older.

I think it will be worthwhile trying to get more info on James and family and the single James in the two shipping records to Victoria that I posted.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Beckie]

Hi Daveham,
Long time no speak.
I read your comments about 'Morwick' & 'Marwick' within the same family. This morning I found reference to this occurring within the same Morwick family tree in Victoria. I wish I had jotted it down, so will have to look again.

I have also found evidence for Hugh's peripatetic life style, so it is possible one of his children was born overseas. The birth circa dates are a bit out, as we have found before.

1841 Census Orkney & Shetland: Shoreside Civil Parish of Shapinsay
Hugh Morwick 15 Boarder b c 1826 Orkney Ship's Carpenter (Apprentice)

1861 England Census:
Hugh Morwick 38 b c 1823 Boarder
Staying with a hotel keeper at Islington Lancashire
Occupation Ship's master (Captain) (Was Elizabeth at home in Balmain?).
Cheers,
Becky.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Beckie,

Thanks. I didn't have Hugh in 1841 or 1861 and that would have been my next request.

I'd say the first son was born and died outside Australia possibly on a vessel either way. And this would be the 2nd son Robert Hugh arriving with them. I'd say Capt Hugh went off again leaving Elizabeth and son in Balmain.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.) - Wednesday 1 February 1860
SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE
ARRIVED JANUARY 30
Dawn of Hope, Black Ball ship, 1,214 tons, George M'Kie, from Liverpool 18th October. Passengers- cabin :..., Captain H. Morwick, Mrs. Morwick and child,...


A bit of a nuisance that SLNSW is closed until 18 Sep. I hope we can get a member here to do some more look ups re the different James arriving in Victoria.

Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871
MORWICK ISABELLA 30 OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 368
MORWICK JAMES 3 OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 368
MORWICK JAMES 35 OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 368
MORWICK MARGARET I OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 368
MORWICK WILLIAM 20 OCT 1851 CONSTANCE 4A 370

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MORWICK JAMES 22 MAY 1853 WACOUSTA B 037 004


Regards,

Dave

 

[Beckie]

Hi Dave,
Re the Morwick/Marwick phenomenon:
I think you mentioned earlier, a Tomima Morwick who was born 1859 in Victoria? her parents were James Morwick & Isabella Harper. I don't think he was our James, as he was born 1816 at North Wright Sandwich, Orkney Scotland, but....
Tomima married John Joseph Howard in Victoria, and they had a son who they named Norman Marwick Howard!
I rest my case.
Becky.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Beckie,

No, I was thinking the first born son might have been born and/or died in England. All I found 1854-1860 was a female:

Births Mar 1859
MORWICK Thomasine Tynemouth 10B 134

Deaths Sep 1860
Morwick Thomasina S. Shields 10a 233


Same main island but on the west not north coast:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/OKI/indexpars.html

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/OKI/Sandwick/Gaz1868.html

Marwick at Sandwick:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/OKI/famhist.html#Orkney

Regards,

Dave