Mary A McCLOY

[DaveHam9]

NSW Death 4029/1913 McCLOY MARY A - EDWARD - SUSAN - REDFERN * 12 Mar 1913

??
Gore Hill
McCloy. Annie PRS. X 132 14/03/1913 82 Peats Ferry Road Hornsby. Died Sydney

At the moment I can't fit that one in with the other McCloy of Peats Ferry Road, Hornsby.

 

[Ellie7]

https://hornsbyshire.recollect.net.au/nodes/view/3620

https://carnrallacafe.com.au/history

 

[Ellie7]

1. • Marriage registration:
   • Annie McCloy
2. • Marriage date:
   • 21/02/1906
3. • Spouse's name:
   • Denis Francis Helies
4. • Registration details:
   • 1906/B/4379

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

Not all are buried at Gore Hill.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tue 29 Mar 1927 p.9
FUNERALS
McCLOY.-The Friends of Mr. THOMAS McCLOY and FAMILY are invited to attend the Funeral of his beloved WIFE and their MOTHER, Jane; to leave her late residence, Carmalla, Peats Ferry-road, Hornsby, THIS TUESDAY, at 1.45 p.m., for Presbyterian Cemetery, Northern Suburbs. Motor Funeral. Motor 'Bus leaves Chatswood Station at 2.15 p.m. for Cemetery Gates.
WOOD COFFILL LIMITED, Motor Funeral Directors.

The dates are wrong. Both notices have the wrong name for the residence.

Mc Cloy Jane - 27-03-1927 28-03-1927 PRESBYTERIAN MONUMENTAL, D2, Grave 0001

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thu 7 May 1942 p.10
DEATHS
McCLOY.-May 6, 1942, Thomas, of Carnville, Pacific Highway, Hornsby and 9 Martin Place, Sydney, aged 83. Private interment.

[Northern Suburbs = Macquarie Park]

The dates are correct here.

Mc Cloy Thomas - 6-05-1942 7-05-1942 PRESBYTERIAN MONUMENTAL, D2, Grave 0002

 

[DaveHam9]

I still can't fit Mary A in with the others. Age 82 so born abt 1813 ???

Rockhampton Second Class 'Waroonga' 1614 tons Captain Fyfe from Plymouth 23rd April 1884, arrived Cooktown 10th June 1884 Dr Maxton Matron Miss Chase - 7 18481 Z1961 M1700
McCLOY Thomas 25 * son of Thompson McCloy
McCLOY Jane 26 * dau of Samuel Miller


Other siblings of Thomas must have arrived.

Here is one sibling with arrival not yet found. Buried Gore Hill. Age 84.

Death 17921/1940 McCLOY ANNIE - THOMPSON - MARY ANN - NEWTOWN * 30 Jul 1940

McCloy. Annie Presbyterian X 134 84 30/07/1940 31/07/1940 26 Henry Street Five Dock PRS-X-134

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh.

Mary Ann is the wife of Thompson. And Annie is a daughter, the informant below.

THOMPSON McCLOY
Date of Death 1883
Group Registration ID 6227873
SR District/Reg Area Coleraine
Deceased Age at Death 52
Page 307
1883 DEATHS Registered in the District of Aghadowey in the Union of Coleraine in the County of Londonderry
No. 255 1883 First October Claggan Aghadowey - Thompson McCloy - Male - Married - 52 years - Small Farmer - Menia ? softening of Brain Three months Certified - Annie McCloy Daughter of deceased present at death Claggan - Nineteenth October 1883 - Alex Lane Registrar


So arrival for Mary Ann (born abt 1827 - so age at death a bit out) and daughter Annie (born 1856) not yet found.

 

[Bootzy]

Off a tree..
Thomas Henry Mccloy b 2 May 1859 Derry Ireland off birth cert of son Thompson Henry McCloy born 12 Jan 1885 Qld – to Thompson Henry McCloy (1830-1883) & Mary Ann Henery (1827-1913)

married 18 April 1884 Aghadowey Ireland Sarah “Jane” Millar (1858-1927) – FHL 101254 & sailed for Oz soon after arrival 10 June 1884 Cooktown Qld from Plymouth on ship “Waroonga” - has Thomas McClay age 25 – Assisted – page 7 - QSA item 18481, Microfilm Z1961 – Microfilm 2 M1700 with Jane age 26

Headstone Transcriptions has
Thomas McCloy age 83 (b 1859) Macquarie Park Cemetery Section D Row 2 – husband of above b Claggan Co Derry died Hornsby – Presbeterian

his father died 1883 in Ireland and his Mother Mary Ann McCloy died 14 March 1913 Redfern NSW and his wife Sarah “Jane” died 27 March 1927 Hornsby NSW

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Some of Thompson's children stayed in Ireland. His son Thomas and wife Jane arrived - date known.

Thompsons wife Mary Ann and daughter Annie arrived - date unknown.

Another son ended up in NZ and another in USA.

 

[Bootzy]

arrival 10 June 1884 Cooktown Qld from Plymouth on ship “Waroonga” - has Thomas McClay age 25 – Assisted – page 7 - QSA item 18481, Microfilm Z1961 – Microfilm 2 M1700 with Jane age 26.

 

[DaveHam9]

There is an error somewhere. Either the BMD and newspaper notice are wrong or the cemetery and tree is wrong.

NSW Death 2657/1927 McCLOY JANE - SAMUEL - MARY - HORNSBY * 28 Mar 1927

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tue 29 Mar 1927 p.10
DEATHS
McCLOY.–March 28, 1927, at her residence Carnralla, Peats Ferry-road, Hornsby, Jane, beloved wife of Thomas McCloy, aged 68 years.

 

[Bootzy]

Findagrave has Jane as 27th March

 

[DaveHam9]

How do you tell which one is correct? I know of errors in the BMD index and I know of errors in cemetery records and I know of errors in trees.

The Qld. Archives is not working for me. It says there are no results for McCloy on the Assisted list.

Ok it's working now and no Mary or Annie on Assisted to Qld. list.

 

[Bootzy]

under Thomas McClay

 

[DaveHam9]

McClay ?

There is no Mary or Annie McClay on Assisted list after 1883.

 

[Bootzy]

cannot see where Mum or sister arrived but that's your Thomas & Jane...

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3430962/83378

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

No Mary or Annie McCloy/McClay on Assisted to NSW list.

They arrived at least 3 months after Thompson's death in Oct 1883.

 

[DaveHam9]

Deposit journal from Thomas for his mother and sister ?

 

[Bootzy]

Can’t see any deposit journals but Findagrave has few notes

Helen Nettie McCloy age 28 buried 2/2/1925 Peats Ferry road died Manly
Annie McCloy age 82 buried 14/3/1913 Peats Ferry road died Sydney = b 1831
Annie McCloy age 84 buried 31/7/1940 26 Henry st 5 Dock = b 1856
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152025282/annie-mccloy

Mum - Annie – 14/3/1913 – SMH 14 March 1913
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15404893?searchTerm=annie mccloy

sister – Annie – 31/7/1940 – SMH 2 Aug 1940
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17674828?searchTerm=annie mccloy

Thomas’s wife (Jane)– SMH 2 April 1927 (looks like death was 28th March 1927)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16373117?searchTerm=annie mccloy

Thomas’s daughter Helen Nettie – Daily Telegraph Mon 2 Feb 1925
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/245266229?searchTerm=annie mccloy

Another child of Thomas & Jane – SMH Thu 12 June 1941 – buried Northern Suburbs Crematorium
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17764303?searchTerm=thompson mccloy

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

BMD with 28 and newspaper notices probably right and cemetery record one day out.


Dates correct here for Gore Hill.

McCloy. Annie Presbyterian X 134 84 30/07/1940 31/07/1940 26 Henry Street Five Dock PRS-X-134

 

[Bootzy]

Thomas’s brother Richardson on Vic Assisted passenger list age 18 from London arriving Adelaide Nov 1889 on ship “Iberia”

the 2 Annie’s are on 1903 ER for 361 Bourke street Darlinghurst – both dom duties

might be something – can you check passengers on ship “Arawatta” - 3 Sept 1894 – from Brisbane to Sydney on NSW Unassisted Passenger List – I can see a Mrs Mccloy & a little further down a Miss Mccloy – above steerage...