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Mary alice rome

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Hi Hope you can help
my nana barbara martin born 1913,her parents were
thomas martin born 1876
mary alice rome born 1878
they married in 1896 in birkenhead
ive managed to find alot of info regarding her father thomas
but nothing regarding alice?
any help please?
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Hi Toffeetower,

Do you have the marriage certificate for Thomas and Mary Alice, if so what is her fathers name and occupation. I had a look on the birth index, no luck under Rome but there is one for a Mary Alice Roome 1877 district West Derby.
 

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This looks like Mary Alice Roome in 1881 name Rome

1881

Civil parish Bootle Cum Linacre
RD West Derby
Sub RD Walton

Mary J Rome head widow age 39 born Birmingham occ shoper keeper(confectioner)
John H son age 12 born Wolverhampton
Jane E dau age 7 born Liverpool
Mary A dau age 4 born Liverpool
Thomas Higgins lodger born Scotland

The family in 1871 name spelt Room

Civil parish Liverpool
RD Liverpool
Sub RD St Martin

John Room head age 47 occ cooper born Cockermouth
Mary Jane wife age 28 born Birmingham
John HW son age 3 born Wolverhampton
 
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This looks like Mary Alice Roome in 1881 name Rome

1881

Civil parish Bootle Cum Linacre
RD West Derby
Sub RD Walton

Mary J Rome head widow age 39 born Birmingham occ shoper keeper(confectioner)
John H son age 12 born Wolverhampton
Jane E dau age 7 born Liverpool
Mary A dau age 4 born Liverpool
Thomas Higgins lodger born Scotland

The family in 1871 name spelt Room

Civil parish Liverpool
RD Liverpool
Sub RD St Martin

John Room head age 47 occ cooper born Cockermouth
Mary Jane wife age 28 born Birmingham
John HW son age 3 born Wolverhampton
I dont have the certs!!:(:( do you think this could be her family then?
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Hi,

Its best to start with the marriage certificate to confirm who the father is as you dont want to go down the wrong road. Then Mary Alices birth certificate also to confirm fathers name and mothers maiden name which will help to find the right marriage for the parents.

If this is your family then its looks like John was married before to a Mary Ann he is on the 1861 census with wife Mary Ann and children.
 
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Hi,

Its best to start with the marriage certificate to confirm who the father is as you dont want to go down the wrong road. Then Mary Alices birth certificate also to confirm fathers name and mothers maiden name which will help to find the right marriage for the parents.

If this is your family then its looks like John was married before to a Mary Ann he is on the 1861 census with wife Mary Ann and children.
thankyou:):)
 
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Hi - 1891

DOUGLAS, William Celland Head Married M 31 1860 Ship Steward Glasgow
DOUGLAS, Jane (nee Rome) Wife F 42 1849 Birmingham (Married Dec1889 W Derby 8b 748 )
ROME, Mary Alice Stepdaughter F 13 1878 Bootle
ROME, Charlotte Stepdaughter F 8 1883 Bootle
ROME, John H Stepson Married M 22 1869 Ships Cook Wolverhampton
ROME, Maud Susan Stepwife Married F 22 1869 Greenwich Kent

RG number:RG12 Piece:2974 Folio:23 Page:41

Registration District:West Derby
Sub District:Walton
Enumeration District:22
Ecclesiastical Parish:St Leonards

Civil Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
Municipal Borough:Bootle
Address:8, Knowsley Road, Bootle Cum Linacre, Bootle, Lancashire

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Hi - 1891

DOUGLAS, William Celland Head Married M 31 1860 Ship Steward Glasgow
DOUGLAS, Jane (nee Rome) Wife F 42 1849 Birmingham (Married Dec1889 W Derby 8b 748 )
ROME, Mary Alice Stepdaughter F 13 1878 Bootle
ROME, Charlotte Stepdaughter F 8 1883 Bootle
ROME, John H Stepson Married M 22 1869 Ships Cook Wolverhampton
ROME, Maud Susan Stepwife Married F 22 1869 Greenwich Kent

RG number:RG12 Piece:2974 Folio:23 Page:41

Registration District:West Derby
Sub District:Walton
Enumeration District:22
Ecclesiastical Parish:St Leonards

Civil Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
Municipal Borough:Bootle
Address:8, Knowsley Road, Bootle Cum Linacre, Bootle, Lancashire

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wow thanks dave,is this where they live 8 knowsley road then?
 
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so here goes!!!!!
Mary Alice Roome was born in Liverpool in 1877
She was the daughter of John Rome and Mary Jane ? who married around 1865
poss in Birmingham or Wolverhampton (based on census that state Mary was born in Birmingham
c 1842 and son John H was born 1866 in Wolverhampton)
John Rome was born in 1824 in Cockermouth Cumberland occ cooper.
He died some time between the 1871 - 81 census
Mary Jane ? remarried (shown as Jane on the 1891 census) between 1881 -91 to William C Douglas
a ship steward born in Glasgow in 1860

BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO JANE E ROME AGED 7 IN 1881 BORN IN LIVERPOOL??
 
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Hi Toffeetower,

A possible marriage for Jane Rome in 1891 district Toxteth Park one of the grooms listed is a William Pendleton.

I havnt come across the couple in 1891. Going forward to 1901 this looks looks like them, surname transcribed as Pembleton

Civil parish Toxteth Park

William Wilson Pembleton (Pendleton) head age 32 occ licensed victualler born Seaforth Lancashire
Jane Elizth wife age 27 born Liverpool
Alice Maud dau age 8 born Liverpool
Dorothy dau age 5 born Liverpool
Wm John son age 3 born Liverpool
Louisa dau age 9mths born Liverpool

Thomas Gallagher servant
Ann Brown Servant
 
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Found Jane E Pendleton in 1891, so Williams maritial status was wrong.

Civil parish Litherland
RD West Derby
Sub Rd Litherland

Robert Pendleton age 46 born Bootle
Jane wife age 44 born Deal? Yorkshire
Annie dau age 19 born Manchester
Benjamin W son age 14 born Seaforth
Robert son age 8 born Seaforth
Jane E Pendleton age 17 sister in law born Liverpool
 
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hi toffeetower,

a possible marriage for jane rome in 1891 district toxteth park one of the grooms listed is a william pendleton.

I havnt come across the couple in 1891. Going forward to 1901 this looks looks like them, surname transcribed as pembleton

civil parish toxteth park

william wilson pembleton (pendleton) head age 32 occ licensed victualler born seaforth lancashire
jane elizth wife age 27 born liverpool
alice maud dau age 8 born liverpool
dorothy dau age 5 born liverpool
wm john son age 3 born liverpool
louisa dau age 9mths born liverpool

thomas gallagher servant
ann brown servant
thankyou:):)
 
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Found Jane E Pendleton in 1891, so Williams maritial status was wrong.

Civil parish Litherland
RD West Derby
Sub Rd Litherland

Robert Pendleton age 46 born Bootle
Jane wife age 44 born Deal? Yorkshire
Annie dau age 19 born Manchester
Benjamin W son age 14 born Seaforth
Robert son age 8 born Seaforth
Jane E Pendleton age 17 sister in law born Liverpool
SORRY! NOW VERY CONFUSED??:confused::confused:
 

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Hi Toffeetower,

The marriage certifciate for Jane Rome and William Pendleton will help solve the confusion. It will tell one way or another if she's the one your looking for.

They married in the 1st 1/4, which includes (jan/feb/mar) of 1891.
 

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