Mary Ann Eliza ALLEN

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Dec 1854 Keynsham 5c 1263
HARDING James & ALLEN Mary Ann Eliza


'Parsee' 1857 Moreton Bay and family Reels 2138, 2476
HARDING James 25
HARDING Eliza 22
HARDING George 1

Arrived 9 Feb 1857 - As Inspected 16 Feb 1857 - Reel 2476
James 25 Labourer Somerset Wm. & Sarah Somerset C.E. Little None Good None
Eliza 22 - Bristol Richd & Hariet Allen C.E. Read None Good None

Looking for Mary's /Eliza's birth/baptism and for family in 1841 and 1851.

Birth in Qld. has her full name. Don't know how accurate 'Bristol' bit is.

Birth 1865/C01069 Harding William - James - Mary Ann Eliza Allen

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm starting again.

Where is the birth reg for George born Somerset with mmn = ALLEN ??


County Somerset
Place Newton St Loe
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 584
Baptism date 27 May 1855
Person forename George
Person *** M
Father forename James
Father surname HARDING
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Mary Ann Eliza
Witness
Witness
Register note
Transcriber notes

 

[DaveHam9]

HARDING, ELIZABETH - ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in BEDMINSTER Volume 11 Page 58


HARDING, ELIZABETH - ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in KEYNSHAM Volume 11 Page 120

HARDING, SOPHIA - ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in KEYNSHAM Volume 11 Page 120


HARDING, ELIZA ALLEN - ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in THORNBURY UNION Volume 11 Page 477

HARDING, JAMES ALLEN - ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in THORNBURY UNION Volume 11 Page 477

HARDING, EMILY - ALLEN
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in THORNBURY UNION Volume 11 Page 494


Looks like more than one family.

 

[DaveHam9]

James Harding 25 in 1857 born Somerset - parents William & Sarah alive in 1857 in Somerset.

I think I need to re do this.

 

[DaveHam9]

HARDING, RICHARD - RAPPELL
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in KEYNSHAM Volume 11 Page 126

Deaths Jun 1847
HARDING Richard Keynsham 11 92 Age 5

So no help finding the right Harding family in 1851.


Marriage of William Harding to Sarah Rappel(l) and baptism of children ??

 

[DaveHam9]

County Somerset
Place Newton St Loe
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 34
Marriage date 28 Apr 1823
Groom forename William
Groom surname HARDING
Bride forename Sarah
Bride surname RAPPELL
Register note
Transcriber notes

 

[DaveHam9]

1851
William Harding
Event Place Newton St Loe, Somerset, England
Registration District Keynsham
Gender Male
Age 51
Marital Status Married
Occupation Ag Labr
Birthplace Newton St Loe, Somerset
Page Number 20
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1944 / 536
William Harding Head M 51 Newton St Loe, Somerset
Sarah Harding Wife F 47 Corston, Somerset
James Harding Son M 20 Newton St Loe, Somerset
George Hadg Son M 16 Newton St Loe, Somerset
Charity Hadg Daughter F 12 Newton St Loe, Somerset
Richard Hadg Son M 2 Newton St Loe, Somerset

 

[DaveHam9]

Qld. Death 9 Jul 1900/C01798 Harding James - William Harding - Sarah Rappel



I had the wrong Harding family in my tree for 1841 and 1851 census.

 

[DaveHam9]

County Somerset
Place Newton St Loe
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 357
Baptism date 08 Jul 1838
Person forename Charity
Person *** F
Father forename William
Father surname HARDING
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Sarah
Witness
Witness
Register note
Transcriber notes


Ag Lab in 1851 and a coal miner here ??

County Somerset
Place Newton St Loe
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 243
Baptism date 27 Mar 1831
Person forename James
Person *** M
Father forename William
Father surname HARDING
Father occupation Coal Miner
Mother forename Sarah
Witness
Witness
Register note
Transcriber notes

 

[DaveHam9]

The Harding family in 1841 ?

Charity Harding
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Newton St Loe, Somerset, England
Birthplace Somerset
Registration District Keynsham
Parish Newton St Loe
County Somerset
Page Number 15
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 961/10
William* Harding M 40 Somerset
Sarah Harding F 40 Somerset
John Harding M 15 Somerset
Sarah Harding F 15 Somerset
James Harding M 9 Somerset
Ann Harding F 7 Somerset
George Harding M 5 Somerset
Charity Harding F 3 Somerset


The Allen family look to be harder to trace.

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
Event Place Newton St Loe, Somersetshire, England
Registration District Keynsham
Residence Note Trap Hill
Age 61
Marital Status Married
Occupation Agricultural Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Page Number 9
Registration Number RG09
Piece/Folio 1701 / 8
William Harding Head M 61 Newton St Loe, Somerset
Sarah Harding Wife F 51 Corston, Somerset
George Harding Son M 26 Newton St Loe, Somerset

 

[DaveHam9]

1871
Event Place Newton St Loe, Somersetshire, England
Enumeration District 1
Marital Status Married
Entry Number 23
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/2502/0019
William Harding Head M 70 Newton, Somerset
Sarah Harding Wife F 68 Newton, Somerset
Mary B Daniels Granddaughter F 11 Newton, Somerset
Hannah M Ferris Granddaughter F 4 Bristol, Somerset


Deaths Sep Qtr 1882 HARDING William 81 Keynsham 5c 391

Deaths Jun Qtr 1883 HARDING Sarah 79 Keynsham 5c 485

 

[DaveHam9]

Mary Ann Eliza

Age 22 in 1857 - Bristol - parents Richd & Hariet Allen

The hint from the shipping record is that Richard and Harriet had died by 1857. It does not say deceased and also does not list a place if living.

No mmn here.

Qld. Death 16 Feb 1906/C01544 Harding Mary Ann Eliza - Richard Allen - Harriet -

Using Mary or Eliza in 1841 and 1851 ?

Several deaths in RD Bristol for a Richard Allen 1837 - 1857.

 

[horse]

Qld. Death 9 Jul 1900/C01798 Harding James - William Harding - Sarah Rappel

Is that death/parents correct, Dave?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I would say so Geoff.

The Brisbane Courier (Qld.) - Mon 10 Dec 1900 p.10
Government Advertisements.
TRANSMISSION BY DEATH.
REAL PROPERTY ACTS OF 1861 AND 1877.
Name of Deceased Proprietor.-James Harding, late of Munbilla, farmer.
Date of Death.-9th July, 1900. Name of Claimant.-Mary Ann Eliza Harding, of the same place, widow of deceased.


I'm off to the local library so I'll catch you later.

The Allen family have me lost. Can't find Mary/Eliza.

Dave

 

[horse]

OK, Dave.. Speak later.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Where is the birth reg for George born Somerset with mmn = ALLEN ??


County Somerset
Place Newton St Loe
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 584
Baptism date 27 May 1855
Person forename George
Person *** M
Father forename James
Father surname HARDING
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Mary Ann Eliza
Witness
Witness
Register note
Transcriber notes

Something to ponder...

Births Q2 1855
HARDING George
Keynsham
5c 768

GRO:
HARDING, JOHN
mmn = DAVIS
1856 Q2 in KEYNSHAM
05C 768
***

Births Q3 1855
Harding George
Keynsham
5c 668

GRO:
HARDING, GEORGE
mmn = RAPPLE
1855 Q3 in KEYNSHAM
Volume 05C Page 668

Geoff

EDIT: Not double-checked with BMD images yet, keep getting kicked off.

 

[horse]

Marriages Dec 1854 Keynsham 5c 1263
HARDING James & ALLEN Mary Ann Eliza

Unless I've missed something, the marriage is not too clear..

This would fit but ? RD..

James Harding
Marriage Date: 19 Nov 1854
Marriage Place: St. James', Bath, Somerset, England
Spouse: Mary Ann Eliza Allen
FHL Film Number: 1565184

Not sure what this is

Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
James Harding
Marriage or Bann Date: 24 Dec 1854
Marriage Place: Newton St Loe, Somerset, England
Spouse: Mary Ann Eliza Allen
[The image has the last date of the three as 24 Dec]

If the marriage was before Jan 1.. It would also fit.

Of course there may be 2x James Harding and Mary Ann Eliza Allen.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Something odd about both of those - birth reg and marriage.

I can't find a George Harding born 1854 - 1856 in 1861 with a pob that is in RD Keynsham.

There is no death 1855 - 1861 in RD Keynsham for a George.


Births Q2 1855
HARDING George
Keynsham
5c 768

Images is very clear - George and 5c 768.

Births Q3 1855
Harding George
Keynsham
5c 668

Ditto clearly George and 5c 668.

I can't find any other ref around 1855 for Rappel/Rapple. The name is fairly common in Somerset.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Mary Ann Eliza - Age 22 in 1857 - Bristol - parents Richard & Harriet Allen

I can't find anything on Mary/Eliza or her parents before her marriage in 1854.

Dave