Mary Ann ELLIS

[DaveHam9]

Something is not right.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thu 18 Jul 1935 p.10
DEATHS
ROBERTS.-July 17, 1935, at her residence Wilga, Auburn-road, Auburn, Mary Ann, relict of late John Hartley, aged 92 years.

ELLIS, MARY ANN ELLIS -
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in TAVISTOCK UNION Volume 09 Page 470

Marriages Mar Qtr 1843 Penzance 9 215
ELLIS Joseph & RICHARDS Ann

Cornwall OPC has the following baptisms at Ludgvan Chapel (part of the Weslyan Circuit)
Joseph and Ann Ellis

Joseph 28 Jan 1844 aged 3 weeks
Mary Ann 6 Jul 1845 aged 6 weeks
Richard born 20 Mar 1849 baptised 11 Jul 1849

ELLIS, JOSEPH - RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in PENZANCE UNION Volume 09 Page 263

ELLIS, RICHARD - RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in PENZANCE UNION Volume 09 Page 265

There is no birth reg with mmn Richards for a Mary Ann Ellis that fits the baptism details.

Age at death points to 1843 and a birth before the 26 Feb 1843 marriage hence the reg with no mmn.

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths in Victoria for Joseph and Ann ??

 

[solidrock2]

From tree's....
Birth

Mary Ann Ellis


Fact details
1845
Ludgvan, Cornwall, England

1851
Mary Ann EllisAge 5Estimated Birth Year 1846Relation DaughterFather's Name Joseph EllisMother's Name Amy EllisGender FemaleWhere born Bryan, Cornwall, EnglandCivil parish LudgvanCounty/Island CornwallCountry EnglandRegistration district PenzanceSub-registration district Uny LelantED, institution, or vessel 2cNeighbors View others on pageHousehold schedule number 7Piece 1917Folio 136Page number 2
Household members
Name Age Joseph Ellis 31Amy Ellis 30John George Erkling 27Margret Urez 17Mary Ann Ellis 5Richard Ellis 2Emely Ellis 6 Mo


Marriage

Joseph Ellis
1819–

1843
Penzance, Cornwall, England
Spouse

Anne (Amy) Richards
1821–

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Keith.

No deaths there. I'm not the only one not to find the deaths in Vic.

 

[emeltee]

Birth Reg

Unnamed female Ellis Jun 1845 Penzance Union 9 217 mmn Richards

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh.

Thanks emeltee.

 

[DaveHam9]

These don't fit.

ELLIS, MARY ANN 6
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in PENZANCE UNION Volume 09 Page 144
ELLIS, MARY ANN 6
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in PENZANCE UNION Volume 09 Page 126

Ok, the Mary Ann born 1843 probably belongs to another family.

 

[Bootzy]

Vic Assist & Unassist – dept Plymouth & arrive Geelong 14 May 1858 on “Admiral Boxer”

Anne Ellis 35, Richard 8, Mary 13, - going to husband Joseph Ellis at Forrest Creek & with sister-in-law Emma 32, Joseph 3 going to husband William Ellis at Forrest Creek.

June 1896
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/70799876?searchTerm=joseph ellis
age 77 & in Colony 39 years from Corwall = arrival around 1857
BDM – ref 4840 – John Ellis & Fox
Joseph Ellis b 26 Feb 1819 baptised 14 March 1819 Ludgvan Cornwall – John & Ann Ellis – FHL 226163 – John Ellis marriage 29 July 1809 Madron Cornwall Nancy (Ann) Fox (1790-1867)

on 1841 for Ludgvan, Penwith, Cornwall – reg Penzance sub Uny Lelant – Piece 142, book 12, folio 5, page 3

brother William Ellis b June 1823 on 1851 census with parents age 27 married Emma Bailey in 1852 Penzance & died June 1868 Vic – age 45 – reg 6270
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/87896731?searchTerm=william ellis
Emma remarried again -1872 Vic to Thomas Gammage – reg 296
Emma Gammage died 1877 Vic age 52 reg 10842 – William & Mary Bailey – Cornwall – Thomas Gammage

 

[Bootzy]

June qtr 1845 – Ellis - Vol 09 – page 215 – mm Richards - as per Ellie's post

Findagrave
Mary Ann Roberts nee Ellis b 1845 Cornwell – died 17 July 1935 buried Rookwood Gen Cemetery – spouse John Hartley Roberts – married 1863 Vic

John Hartley Roberts b 17 June 1838 Manchester died 19 Jan 1922 Auburn buried with wife at Rookwood

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

??
Deaths Jun Qtr 1853 ELLIS John [71] Penzance 5c 239

Deaths Mar Qtr 1863 ELLIS Nanny [78] Penzance 5c 260

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find Ann/Nanny in 1861.

 

[DaveHam9]

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 142/12 Folio 5 Page 3
Civil Parish: Ludgvan
Hundred: Penwith
County: Cornwall
Registration District: Penzance
Sub-RD: Uny Lelant
ED: 14
Address: Treassowe
John Ellis 55 Miner (Tin) Y
Ann Ellis 55 Y
Joseph 20 Miner (Tin) Y
William 15 Miner (Tin) Y

My best guess for the occupations.

 

[emeltee]

Original looks like Miner (Tin)

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks emeltee.

I came to that a few seconds ago.

 

[emeltee]

The Nanny Ellis who died Penzance 1863 aged 78 would appear to be this one
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=863031

She is in the 1861 Census with son Peter and family. I don't think she is the Nanny Ellis you are looking for. Unfortunately I cannot find a death which fits, nor does she appear in the 1861 Census.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks emeltee.

 

[DaveHam9]

Film No 5750104
Image No 314
Day Month 29-Jul
Year 1809
Parish Circuit Or Chapel Madron
Groom Fn John
Groom Sn ELLIS
Groom Age
Groom Residence Parish of Ludgvan
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Profession
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Groom Father Name
Groom Father Rank Profession
Bride Fn Nancy
Bride Sn FOX
Bride Age
Bride Residence otp
Bride Condition
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) M
Bride Father Name
Bride Father Rank Profession
Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 Richard
Witness Sn1 NICHOLLS
Witness Fn2 M.
Witness Sn2 WRIGHT
Other Information Banns published 9, 16 and 23 Jul 1809
Transcriber Notes src: Exeter BTs
Transcriber L Cox

 

[DaveHam9]

Nancy (Ann) Fox (1790-1867)

I can't see a death that fits those dates.

Only this one is close.
Deaths Sep Qtr 1867
ELLIS Jane 79 Penzance 5c 195