Mary Ann Maria Clarke 1881

[horse]

Looking for confirmation of Mary's birth and a possible baptism.

There are a few possibles, there is a tree that has this:
Births Q2 1881
Clarke Mary Ann
St. Saviour
1d 77

There is also this:
Births Q3 1882
Clarke Mary Ann
Fulham
1a 261

In 1911 she is housekeeper to William Durrant, whom she married later in the year.

Death:
Mary A M Durrant
Birth Date: abt 1881
Date of Registration: Jun 1946
Age at Death: 65
RD: Cambridge
Volume: 3b
Page: 545

Many thanks..
Geoff

 

[Ladybird1300]

Hi Geoff,

This looks like her in the 1881 census with her parents in Fulham :

First name(s) Mary Ann
Last name Clarke
Relationship Daughter
Marital status Single
Gender Female
Age 1
Birth year 1880
Occupation -
Birth town -
Birth town as transcribed HSMITH
Birth county Middlesex
Birth county as transcribed MIDDLESEX
Birth place England
House number 16
Street Oldfield Terrace
Town -
Parish Hammersmith
County London, Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Fulham
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 54
Folio 83
Page 28
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

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Think this might be her Birth :

First name(s) MARY ANN M
Last name CLARKE
Birth year 1878
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District FULHAM
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 256
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Amanda

 

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In 1911 she says born Fulham New Town, age 29. Wm Durrant is 44 so if she was older than 29 she would probably have put it. So the first census she will be in is 1891.

In 1891 the best fit for Mary Ann Clarke born Fulham is:-
Fulham (ED 29, Pc 49, F170, Pg 25) :-
Frederick Clarke 39 Plasterer b. Northamptonshire Road
Harriet , 38, b. London Chelsea
Fred, 17,
John, 15
William, 14
George, 3
Elizabeth, 10
Mary A, 8
Caroline, 6
all children born Fulham

The children were all baptised at St Andrew, Fulham. Mary Ann bapt. 23 July 1882, born 29 June 1882.

Elaine

 

[horse]

Many thanks, ladies. A couple of good arguments to look into.

The 3rd initial M [Maria] keeps bugging me, she uses it in her marriage, death reg and probate, I'm wondering if she can be found in 1901 using it

Geoff

 

[Ladybird1300]

There is an M in the birth of 1878 Geoff.

You also have to be a tad careful, because one Mary Ann b 1882 died the following year:

First name(s) MARY ANN
Last name CLARK
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1882
Age 1
Death quarter 3
Death year 1883
District FULHAM
County London
Volume 1A
Page 170
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Amanda

 

[horse]

There is an M in the birth of 1878 Geoff.

You also have to be a tad careful, because one Mary Ann b 1882 died the following year:

Thanks, Amanda.

Yeah, I haven't discounted the 1878 birth for that reason.

Thanks for that death, I hadn't seen that.

Interesting in the 1911 marriage one tree I have found has one of the witnesses as Sarah Langley, as far as I can see it is William's sister. The strange thing about the tree noting the witnesses is that there is nothing about Mary Ann's parents. If that info came from the marriage cert. it should give her father, assuming he was known.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Just to muddy the waters further, this can't be discounted, parts of Fulham were in the reg dist..

Births Q4 1880
Clark Mary Ann M
Kensington
1a 94

Geoff

 

[horse]

Oh!

Mary Ann Maria Clark
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Feb 1881
Father: James Charles Clark
Mother: Mary Ann Clark
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Thomas
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers
[Image has her father as a fireman]

They should be in 1881 census

Geoff

 

[horse]

They also bap. a Harriet Clark on the same day..

Geoff

 

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They also bap. a Harriet Clark on the same day..

Geoff

The bap. image gives Harriet's DoB as 6 Feb 1876. Address 23 Ann Street

Births Q1 1876
CLARK Harriet
Stepney
1c 480
***
CLARK Harriet Elizabeth T
Holborn
1b 832

Geoff

 

[horse]

Same address as given at baptisms. Father, James Charles had died.

1881
Civil Parish: Ratcliffe
County: London
Street address: 23 Ann Street
Marital Status: Windower (Widower)
RD: Stepney
Sub RD: Ratcliff
ED: 2a; RG11; Piece: 462; Folio: 56; Page: 39

Marian Clark 32 wid [b. Wapping. Seamstress]
Alice Clark 16 dau [b. St Georges E. Factory something]
Maria Clark 10 dau [b. Ratcliffe. Scholar]
Harriet Clark 5 dau [do. do]

But no Mary Ann

Geoff

 

[Ladybird1300]

The 1878 birth may not be right, cos this could be her baptism:

Name: Mary Ann Minnie Clarke
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1879
Father's name: Stephen Barnes Clarke
Mother's name: Louisa Clarke
Parish or Poor Law Union: West Kensington St Matthew
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers

Not sure if Minnie and Maria are interchanging

Amanda

 

[horse]

Yeah, still a bit up in the air, not confident I have the right Mary Ann, though I can't see anything thing else, EDIT that fits so well.

I'm tempted to get the 1911 mar. cert. to see if it has her father's name.

Geoff

 

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It does look impossible!
I notices in 1901 in Mattishall, Norfolk a Maria Clarke, 19, servant, b. London

Could Mary Ann have been called Maria as a pet name and so when she went to live with William Durrant in Cambridgeshire it got added in as her full name?
Just another possibility to add to the others!

Elaine

 

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SORTED ! (hopefully)

on FMP there is access to the newspaper archives.
The Cambridge Independent Press, 31 Dec 1920 has a report about Mary Ann Clark (62) of Soham who is charged with bigamously marrying a William Harlock (60) in 1916, her husband John Clark of Wisbech being still alive.

John Clark gave evidence that he had married her at East Dereham church April 16 1879. he had been living in Wisbech for the last 30 years and his wife knew it.

Maria Durrant, wife of William Durrant and daughter of John Clark and the defendant Mary Ann Clark gave evidence that she had known her father was in Wisbech during the last 10 years and was sure her mother knew this.

Committed to Cambridgeshire Assizes Jan 15 1921. No further reports have been digitised.

Well a whole new scene opens up !

The couple were in Fulham in 1881, both born Northamptonshire. John has another "wife" and more children in later Wisbech censuses but obviously didn't marry her in church. Mary Ann (senior) on her own in 1911 in Soham, occupation pedlar, she was a hawker in 1881.
Mattishall is very near East Dereham so possibly the correct Maria Clark there in 1901.
Needs a lot more work but this is the right track .
Elaine

 

[horse]

Thanks, Elaine.

As you say, another one to check out. The name Maria does appear a few times.

Geoff

 

[horse]

SORTED ! (hopefully)

on FMP there is access to the newspaper archives.
The Cambridge Independent Press, 31 Dec 1920 has a report about Mary Ann Clark (62) of Soham who is charged with bigamously marrying a William Harlock (60) in 1916, her husband John Clark of Wisbech being still alive.

John Clark gave evidence that he had married her at East Dereham church April 16 1879. he had been living in Wisbech for the last 30 years and his wife knew it.

Maria Durrant, wife of William Durrant and daughter of John Clark and the defendant Mary Ann Clark gave evidence that she had known her father was in Wisbech during the last 10 years and was sure her mother knew this.

Committed to Cambridgeshire Assizes Jan 15 1921.

Well a whole new scene opens up !
Elaine

Wow! Excellent...

The trouble I've had with this line, including the Haylocks' from the 1860's, thank you so much.

Geoff

 

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That would give credence to the Mattishall find, being only a few miles from East Dereham..

Geoff

 

[horse]

The trouble I've had with this line, including the Haylocks' from the 1860's, thank you so much.

I wonder if William was one of the Haylocks' on this line, I notice the news clip says Harlock, I'll have to check my tree because there is another mystery in about 1860 involving a Mary Ann Haylock..

Geoff

 

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This looks like the 1916 marriage.. Edit: removed bigamous

William Harlock
Spouse Surname: Clark
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1916
Registration district: Cambridge
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 1069

Geoff