Mary Anne KILFEDER

[horse]

One has fair hair and the other dark hair and both say formerly a policeman at Prahran. ??

Yep and the dark hair = 5' 11" the other = 5' 10"..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

We need the occupation of the James who married Many Ann Oleary.

This is the one born Mary Ann.

1919 & 1921 VIC Electoral Roll - Bourke - Brunswick South
NAUGHTON James, 143 Union st. west, Brunswick, nil
NAUGHTON Anne, 143 Union st. west, Brunswick, home duties
NAUGHTON Elsie Mabel, 143 Union st. west, Brunswick, shop asst.

1922 VIC Electoral Roll - Bourke - Brunswick South
NAUGHTON Anne, 144 Union st. W, Brunswick, home duties
NAUGHTON Elsie Mabel, 144 Union st. W, Brunswick, shop assistant

Death Reg# 13761/1923 NAUGHTON Anne 70 KILLFEDER Jno Anne KNOX d. Brunswick, Vic.

The Age (Melbourne, Vic.) - Tue 9 Oct 1923 p.1
DEATHS
NAUGHTON.-On the 8th October, at 144 Union-street, West Brunswick, Anne, widow of the late James Naughton, loving mother of James, Anne (Mrs. Poppleton), Mary (Mrs. Henchen), William, Lily (Mrs. Bryceland), Robert and Elsie, aged 76 years. After life's fitful fever she sleeps well.

The James who died 1922 is buried in the same grave as Mary Ann /Anne.

Dave

 

[horse]

I can complicate this.

A James Naughton married Mary Ann OLEARY in 1870 and had children in Richmond area 1871-87.

Don't know his occupation

Surname: NAUGHTON
Given Names: James
Event: D
Father: Unk
Mother: Unk UNK
Age: 78
Death Place: Bwk N
Year: 1920
Reg. Number: 9063

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.) - Sat 4 Sep 1920 p.
DEATHS
NAUGHTON.-On the 1st September, at his late residence, 446 Sydney Road, Brunswick, James husband of late M. A. Naughton, father of Edward, Ernie, Landie, and Aggie (deceased) also Thomas, Len, Frank, and Mrs. Lally. R. I. P. (Interred privately at Melbourne General Cemetery)

This is his wife's death..

Mary Anne Naughton
Birth Year abt 1844
Age 72
Death Place Brunswick, Victoria
Parents = Oleary James & Louisa Leonard
Registration Year 1916
Registration Number 13222

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

The other problem is that there is only one death in Vic. for an Alice Naughton.

Death 13020/1927 NAUGHTON Alice 80 KILFEDER Michael ? Mary Ann ? UNK d. Ballarat, Vic.

Alice was a widow and died in Ballarat Hospital age 80.
Alice was buried on 10 Nov, 1927 at Ballarat New Cemetery in Church of England "G", Section 2, Row 1, Grave 23.

If that is Alice who arrived with sister Rebecca then there is no marriage to a Naughton and parents are wrong - should be John & Anne

If it is the death of the Alice who arrived with James in 1871 then she was deserted in 1878.

Only the one Naughton birth in Vic. with mother = Alice Kilfeder

Dave

 

[horse]

We need the occupation of the James who married Many Ann Oleary.

Vic. E/R 1915
James Naughton
Subdistrict: Brunswick
District: Bourke
Residence Address: 113 Evans St., East Brunswick
No Occ

Probably easier to show a partial copy.. Probably just as complicated.

 

[horse]

Vic. E/R 1915
James Naughton
Subdistrict: Brunswick
District: Bourke
Residence Address: 113 Evans St., East Brunswick
No Occ

This one wasn't at that address until after 1913.

Geoff

 

[horse]

The James in Sydney Road was there in 1903, with an Edward [clerk], Minnie [hd] and Thomas [iron moulder].

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

1914 VIC Electoral Roll - Bourke - Brunswick
NAUGHTON James, 113 Evans st., East Brunswick,
NAUGHTON Annie, 113 Evans st., East Brunswick, home duties

Edward, Minnie & Thomas = Oleary.

So do we have 3x James and two of them ex police at Prahran or just one with descriptions that differ.

Dave

 

[horse]

Edward, Minnie & Thomas = Oleary.

Yep, so that family is discounted..

Geoff

 

[horse]

Yep, so that family is discounted..

Should be, is that family discounted?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

No doubt about this.

Unassisted Inward passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923
KILFEDER ALICE 23 JAN 1871 ESSEX B 300 006
KILFEDER REBECCA 20 JAN 1871 ESSEX B 300 006

Rebecca's notice has 'sister of Mrs Naughton' and no mention of other siblings.

Back to these two.

Qld. Birth 29 Apr 1872/B13912 Naughton Anne James Alice Kilfedder

Vic. Birth 1874 NAUGHTON Rebecca James Alice KILFEDDER b. Sandridge, Vic. #19144

Qld. one is ok.

The birth in Sandridge and the death for a widow Alice Naughton in Ballarat and buried CofE Ballarat would fit Alice sister of Rebecca (buried CofE) but parents are not John & Anne.

3x James Naughton ??

James NAUGHTON, born in Clare, who married Bridget GRIFFIN in Vic. in 1866/7, with whom he had 3 children in Richmond 1869-71.

Dave

 

[horse]

3x James Naughton ??

I usually prefer multiples as a very last resort, but it is looking very likely..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

1920 = Mary Ann Oleary
1922 = Anne Kilfeder

1908 NAUGHTON Jas EventDeath Father Naughton Jas Luke Mother Elizth (Burgess) Reg. no9028 d. Carlton Age 1

1914 NAUGHTON Jas EventDeath Naughton Jno Mother Bridget (Meheran) Reg. no7811 d. Watchem Age 60

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm off now to an appointment at hospital for my neck issues. Not sure how long I'll be.

Dave

 

[horse]

I'm off now to an appointment at hospital for my neck issues. Not sure how long I'll be.

OK, Dave.. good luck.

Speak later.

 

[horse]

This looks to be a sibling of the Kilfeder ladies...

Victoria, Australia, St. Peter's Eastern Hill, Marriages, 1848-1955
John Kilbedder
Birth Year: abt 1848
Event Date: 3 Jan 1868
Place: Melbourne, Bourke
Spouse: Kate Quirk
Spouse Age: 22
Father: John Kilbedder
Mother: Anne Kuok [image has Knox]
Spouse Father: John Quirk
Spouse Mother: Ellen Ahem
[Occ = Detective officer. Birth Co Leitrim, Ireland]

Geoff

 

[horse]

John K's address in the early 1870's looks to be 42 Barkly Street, Carl.

He gets a number of mentions in the Police Gazette for the right reasons.

Geoff

 

[Bootzy]

wonder if this is Geoff's John & Kate

The Argus Sat 11 July 1925
KILFEDDER.—In loving remembrance of our dear father, John Kilfedder, who passed away at Koondrook, 9th July, 1923, also dear mother, Catherine Kilfedder who departed this life 22nd July, 1924, at Pyramid Hill (Inserted by the family. )

KILFEDDER Given names John EventDeath Father's name -KILFEDDER John Mother's maiden name -Ann (Knox) Reg. year1923 Reg. no11028

KILFEDDER Given names Catherine Event Death Father's name - QUIRK John Mother's maiden name - Cath (Unknown) Reg. year1924 Reg. no11842

The Argus Thu 31 July 1924
KILFEDDER.—On the 22nd July, passed peacefully away at Pyramid Hill, Catherine Kilfedder, widow of the late J. Kilfedder, of Koondrook.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks geoff.

Thanks Val.

R.I.C. Service number 26159.
KILFEDDER JNo 21 LEI 1860 Emigrated 6063/87C
Joined 1 Sep 1860, age 21, height 5 feet 10 ¼ inches, a Protestant from county Leitrim.
Served in Limerick (1861)
Resigned to emigrate on 28 April 1863.

He was a customs officer in Vic. before he retired.

1903 VIC Electoral Roll - Echuca - Koondrook
KILFEDDER John, Koondrook, pensioner
KILFEDDER Kate, Koondrook, postmistress
KILFEDDER John Robert, Koondrook, postal assistant
KILFEDDER William Sydney, Koondrook, labourer

Interesting that John and his descendants use Kilfedder.


Can't find a shipping record for John or brother James Michael who ended up in Qld.

Dave