Mary CLEMENT

[DaveHam9]

This one has come round again as I'm doing 'C' in my tree.

Mary born abt 1822 England

1843 Marriage solemnized at the Israelites Sanctuary Ashton Under Lyne in the District of Ashton and Oldham in the Counties of Lancashire and Cheshire
No. 66 - Twentyfifth of September 1843
Thomas Angel of full age Bachelor Cloth Lapper Katherine Street Ashton under Lyne Thomas Angel Horse Trainer
Mary Clements of full age Spinster Works in a Warehouse Katherine Street Ashton under Lyne James Clements Weaver
Married in the Israelites Sanctuary according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Israelites by me Aaron Woollacott
Thomas signed and Mary by her x mark
Witnesses: Edward Odgen, Elizabeth Woollacott
John Whitehead Registrar


Page 1
1868 Deaths in the Parish of Old Kilpatrick in the County of Dumbarton
No. 3 - Mary Angel (Married to Thomas Angel Pier-Master) - 1868 January Fourth 9h. 15m. P.M. Scott's Lane Bowling Old Kilpatrick - F - 46 years - James Clement Soldier, deceased Mary Clement M.S. Allison, deceased - (a) Bronchitis 14 days (b) Congestion of Lungs As Certified by John Spiers Surgeon Old Kilpatrick - Stephen Angel Son of the deceased (present) - 1868 January 6th at Old Kilpatrick M. Findlay Registrar

A brother ??

George Clement
Baptism Date: 10 Oct 1830
Parish: Salford, St Philip
Parish as it Appears: St Philips Church Manchester
Father: James Clement
Mother: Mary Clement
Item Number: 1
Archive Roll: 955
[Occ. Soldier]

Trying to find anything more on James Clement(s) and Mary Allison and any other children.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
Registration No: 501
Registration District: Old Kilpatrick
Civil Parish: Old Kilpatrick
County: Dunbartonshire
Roll: CSSCT1861_68 Page 10
ED: 2
Address: Railways Co's House
Thomas Angel Head 38 Railway Porter Paisley
Mary Angel Wife 38 Railway Porter's wife England
Thomas Angel son 16 Boilermaker [App] England
Stephen Angel son 6 Paisley
Octavia C Angel dau 3 Glasgow
Samuel D Angel son 5m Bowling Dumbartonshire

 

[DaveHam9]

Another one that's too easy to tackle. :biggrin:

 

[emeltee]

I can't find anything on them anywhere apart from the 1851 Census. It's a page transcribed by the Manchester & Lancs FHS so I presume it is one of the many water damaged pages.

HO107/2233

Fleet Street, Ashton under Lyne

Thomas Angel 29 Lodger Married Plumber Scotland

He's lodging with a family called Simpson - no sign of Mary.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

It is not an easy one at all.

Births Sep 1844 ANGEL Thomas Ashton and Oldham 20 20 mmn CLEMENTS

Births Dec 1846 ANGEL John Ashton and Oldham 20 17 mmn CLEMENT

Birth ?? Death: Abbey Paisley 05/12/1851 Hannah ANGEL

1855 ANGEL STEPHEN GIFFORD M PAISLEY LOW CHURCH /RENFREW 573/02 0002
1855 January Fourth 4 hrs PM 13 Gordon's Lane Paisley Thomas ANGEL 34 labourer Paisley married 1844 Ashton under Lyne Lancashire 2 boys living 1 girl deceased
Mary ANGEL maiden name CLEMENT her 4th child 34 years Paisley

Census has born England.

Stephen ANGEL b. 4 Jan 1855 High Church Paisley, Renfrew ** High Church is an error on the extracted record
Thomas ANGEL & Mary CLEMENT
Batch: C115731

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Brother Samuel.

Index to Paupers 1839-1883 - Series 11 Vol 11/1-11/20
Statement #6478 17 Feb 1853 Angell Samuel
Statement:
Samuel Angel age 27 and wife aged 26 of Charleston Abbey - Samuel 2 1/2 and John 5/12
Place of Birth: 99 Causeyside - Can read - cannot write
Parents: Thomas Angel Dead Mary Clark Dead
John Arrol Dead Ann Tytler Alive
99 Causeyside 1826-1832
13 Prussia St 1832-1846
13 Bridge St June 1846 - Feb 1853
Employed as a Starcher by Thos Dykes - No Means - Earnings 11/- Weekly from Parish.
Has a brother Thomas in England and his family chargable Feb Mar Apr 1853
Samuel went from Paisley 10 June 1854
and died 9 Jan 1856 Carduory ? near Melbourne, Vic.
Widow applies living in 3 Smith Sq Abbey Parish since June 1854 prior 13 Bridge St June 1846 - June 1854.
Works in Rodgers Mill - Has average 6/- weekly - Lives with Mother who keeps children in her absence.
John 4 yrs on 13th Ult.
Mary 18mo on 19th Ult.

 

[DaveHam9]

I think James Clement is more likely to be a soldier than a weaver.

Mary born abt 1822 and if George is a brother born abt 1830 then there are probably others in between.

So looking in Lancs OPC 1826 +/- 10 the only one

Baptism: 10 Oct 1830 St Philip, Salford, Lancashire, England
George Clements - [Child] of James Clements & Mary
Abode: Salford
Occupation: Soldier
Baptised by: Oswald Sergeant
Register: Baptisms 1826 - 1848, Page 18, Entry 139
Source: LDS Film 506449

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1851 Census
Paisley Low - 13 Bridge St
Name Age Ward Enum Page Line Occupation
Angel
Samuel 23 464 3 9 7 Starcher
Janet 22 8 Warp Winder
Anne 3 9
Samuel 8mo 10
Mary Clymont lodger 28 Weaver warp winder Paisley, Renfrew [England]
Thomas Clymont 6 Paisley, Renfrew [England]
John Clymont 4 Paisley, Renfrew [England]

 

[DaveHam9]

??
1841
Piece: SCT1841/573 Place: Paisley -Renfrewshire ED: 8
Civil Parish: Paisley Low Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 51 Page: 14
Address: 1 Stow Place
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
LAKIE Grace F 50 Cotton Winder Outside Census County (1841)
CLEMENT Mary F 20 Female Servant England
McCRAE Robt M 45 Hand Loom Weaver Outside Census County (1841)


Piece: SCT1841/573 Place: Paisley -Renfrewshire ED: 4
Civil Parish: Paisley Low Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 47 Page: 25
Address: 12 Prussia St (East side of 25 Causeyside to Gordon's Lane)[Prussia St no longer exists]
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANGLE Thomas M 55 Pensioner Renfrewshire [Army pensioner]
ANGLE Mary F 45 Renfrewshire
ANGLE Thomas M 20 Cloth Lapper Renfrewshire
ANGLE Sarah F 15 Renfrewshire
ANGLE Samuel M 12 Renfrewshire
ANGLE Stephen M 7 Renfrewshire

 

[emeltee]

You may well have this from Scotlandspeople

Thomas Angel 1820 Paisley Burgh or Low parents Thomas Angel/Mary Clark

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, Emeltee.

Not much on it but it did help a lot.

08/05/1818 ANGEL THOMAS MARY CLARK/FR402 M Paisley Middle /RENFREW 573/002 0020 0148
* Image *
1818 May 3 Thomas Angel Private 40th Reg & Mary Clark 3/1
Married by ? ? Proclamation 8th May

It leads to another unsolved puzzle - his baptism and parents remain a mystery.

ANGEL THOMAS 1785 - 1803 British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Ashburton, Devon, England

Enlisted in Somerset 24th April 1803
Discharged 24th June 1821
5ft 5 3/4 , brown hair, grey eyes.. dark complexion. A labourer by trade.

First name(s) THOMAS
Last name ANGEL
Birth year 1785
Birth parish ASHBURTON
Birth town ASHBURTON
Birth county DEVON
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number -
Rank PRIVATE
Regiment Royal Regiment of Veterans
Document Type Discharge
Attestation year 1803
Attestation Day 24
Attestation Month 4
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months -
Discharge Corps 4TH ROYAL REGT OF VETERANS
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 1125
Box Record Number 10
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

Thomas Angel, served 1803-1821 in the 40th and the 4th Royal Veteran, was 36 when discharged in 1821, and was born Ashburton, Devonshire.

The Peninsula War 1808 - 1814 (1st Battalions 40th & 82nd Regiments)

Peninsula Medal Roll 1793-1814
Name Regiment
ANGEL, Thomas 40TH FOOT
Name - Rank - No of Clasps - Particulars of Clasps
ANGEL Thomas - 6 - V T B B S V

V = Vimiera ** 2nd Brigade: General Ronald Ferguson included 40th
T = Talavera ** 4th Division Sir Alexander Campbell - Kemmiss' Brigade included 1/40th
B = Busaco ** 4th Division: Major General Lowry Cole 2nd Brigade: commanded by Colonel Kemmis: included 1st/40th
B = Badajoz ** 4th Division: Major General Lowry Cole - probably included 40th
S = Salamanca ** included 40th
V = Vitoria ** 4th Division included 40th


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Thomas born abt 1785 Asburton said by family history to have had a brother Samuel but nothing found for a Samuel Angel.

Dave

 

[emeltee]

I can find a Thomas Angel bapt. 1785 and brother John bapt. 1782 in Ilsington, parents John and Joan. No Samuel though. Ilsington is 6 miles NNE of Ashburton.

I can find a Samuel Angel bapt. Ashburton 1779 parents Richard and Elizabeth. Possibly they were cousins, not brothers.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

A lot of the family lore re Angel family has proved to be correct. Son Stephen went to sea at 14 - yes, and ended up in the gold fields of Victoria - yes.

The Samuel born Devon supposedly ended up as a minister in a church in Paisley for 30 years with a plaque on a wall in the church commemorating the fact.

I walked around Paisley in 2008 asking questions re Samuel and could find nothing to confirm the story.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

My 2xg grandfather Stephen Angel and his wife Elizabeth Ann Lewton.

Married 1860 St. Mark's CofE Fitzroy, Vic.

One story was, because of his hair, that the family were Jewish lace makers from Lincolnshire. I'd say I've disproved that with his father Thomas, a labourer, going with the army to Paisley.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Abbey 08/07/1848
Thomas Angel, 4th Battalion of Veterans, resided at Prussia Street, born in England, age 71

Paisley Abbey Churchyard S2:425
Thos. Angel & Steven Gifford & their wives & chn.

Age is way out there.

Stephen Gifford Soldier 4th Royal Battalion of Veterans Margaret Clark in this parish
Married on 2 April 1821 by Rev. Robert Burns - Paisley Low.

Brother-in-law. Gifford as a middle name in Angel family.

Dave