Mary LLOYD

[DaveHam9]

1871
RG10 Piece 1722 Folio 89 Page 23
Civil Parish: Hadleigh
County: Suffolk
Registration District: Cosford
Sub-RD: Hadleigh
Address: Queen Street
Thomas Lloyd 51 Upholsterer
Mary Lloyd 46 b Essex, Iolston Darrey? [Tolleshunt D'Arcy]
Charles Lloyd 11
Frank Lloyd 7
Harry Lloyd 3
All born Hadleigh except Mary


I'd like a look up please for Mary in 1891. I think Thomas died between 1881 and 1891.

 

[DaveHam9]

1881
RG11 Piece 1834 Folio 77 Page 7
Birthplace: Tolleshunt D Arcy Toleston Darcey, Essex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Address: Queen Street
Event Place: Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
Head Thomas Lloyd M 61 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
Wife Mary Lloyd F 54 Tolleshunt D Arcy Toleston Darcey, Essex, England
Son Joseph J Lloyd M 28 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
Son Benjamin R Lloyd M 26 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
Servant Julia Clarke F 16 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
Boarder Elizabeth Webster F 89 Bildeston, Suffolk, England
Lodger Head Anna Doyley Strutt F 56 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't know when Mary died.

 

[stockpot]

Can't find her in 1891 or later and can't identify her death.

Husband Thomas died 18 May 1884, late of Hadleigh, Cabinet maker & upholsterer. Will proved at bury St Edmonds 28 July 1886 by Mary Lloyd, widow. £ 186 8s 6d

He was buried at Hadleigh St Mary but no record of her there.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks stockpot.

Yes, I could not see a death for Mary. I had better extend the search to shipping records and BMD in Australia.

I know son William ended up in Australia but I've not found him in shipping records so far.

NSW Death 13519/1915 LLOYD WILLIAM E - THOMAS - MARY - ST LEONARDS

LLOYD William Death notice 23JUL1915 Death 63 at North Sydney SMH 24JUL1915


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

This is the marriage:

Marriages Jun Qtr 1850
Lloyd Thomas Yarmouth Gt 13 639
Revett Mary Yarmouth Gt 13 639

I don't have a baptism or parents for Mary yet. Can't find a baptism.

I can't see Mary as born Essex on FS in 1841 census.

 

[stockpot]

FS gives these details :-

marriage 9 June St Nicholas, Gt Yarmouth
Mary Revett, father JOSEPH Revett and Thomas Lloyd, father Edward Lloyd

bapt 1 Jan 1841, St Mary Le Tower, Ipswich
Mary Revett, d.o. Joseph and Louisa Revett , BORN March 1827

bapt 25 Dec 1840, St Mary Le Tower, Ipswich
Catharine Revett, d.o. Joseph and Louisa Revett

1841 Ipswich, Pc 1043 Bk 13, F27, p8
Louisa Rivett 40 not born in county
Mary 15 N
Emma 12 Y
Susannah 9 Y
Harriet 6 Y
Catherine 4 Y

1841 Joseph Revett, coachmaker, is at an inn in London,

1851 Edward Place, Great Yarmouth Pc 1806, F 754 P 28
Joseph Revett, mar. 57, coachmaker, Kelvedon Essex
Emma Revett, daug. 27 Colchester Essex
Catherine Revett, daug, 14, Colchester Essex

FS has 1871 census for Joseph and Louisa Revett and other family. note servant from Hadleigh.also note FS has marriage of Harriet Revett in India to Collins 1855, ref grandson Collings in 1871

Looks to me like this is the family of Mary Revett/Lloyd ??

 

[stockpot]

One last thing :- 1881 census Station Rd, Framlingham, Suffolk
Pc 1885 F 28 P50
William E Revitt 56 retired from HMS Tolleshunt Essex
Jane wife 55
Kate Ivy daug. 24 Calcutta
Marion daug. 23 Calcutta
Joseph Revitt father 93 superannuated Kelvedon Essex

FS has marriage of William in Calcutta in 1854 and his middle name is Eagle.
Thomas and Mary Lloyd in Hadleigh had a daughter Alice Mary Eagle Lloyd, born 19 March 1854 died 4 May 1854. Looks like Eagle is a family name.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello stockpot,

Thank you very much.

I didn't search that late for a baptism for Mary. Yes, Rivett (variations) and Eagle appear as middle names in several generations.

I have one puzzle re this family I will post and I'd appreciate your thoughts on it.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

From IGI:

1. HENRY LLOYD
c. 19 SEP 1868 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
2. HENRY EDWARD LLOYD
c. 14 JAN 1870 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
3. BENJAMIN REVETT LLOYD
c. 28 DEC 1855 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
4. ALICE MARY EAGLE LLOYD
c. 19 MAR 1854 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
5. CHARLES LLOYD
c. 07 NOV 1860 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
6. THOMAS JOSEPH LLOYD
c. 03 NOV 1852 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
7. FRANK LLOYD
c. 07 AUG 1862 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
8. WILLIAM REVETT LLOYD
c. 22 AUG 1851 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England

Deaths Sep 1852
Lloyd William Cosford 4a 273

17 Sep 1852
Aged 7
Whatfield, St Margaret (Within Cosford RD)


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William and Frank arrived in Australia ???

Earliest reference found so far:

Information From Rates Book - (note spellings are as listed)
Address Accounts sent to:
1882: William E Lloyds, “Hadley Cottage” John Street, Burwood
1882: William F Lloyd, “Clifton” George Street, Burwood
1880: William F Lloyd “Gladville” George Street, Burwood

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 12 August 1887
THE RECENT FIRE IN GEORGE STREET
CORONER'S INQUIRY
The inquiry into the origin of the fire which occurred on the 30th July at the premises occupied by Messrs. Lloyd and Collins, Nos. 306 and 308, George-street,... Mr. William Eagle Lloyd... Mr. Frank Lloyd ...


Spouse and two children:

1913 NSW Electoral Roll - WILLOUGHBY - LANE COVE ROAD, NORTH SYDNEY POLLING-PLACE
1135 LLOYD Eliza, 79 Union-street, domestic duties
1136 LLOYD Lillian Rivett, 79 Union-street, domestic duties
1137 LLOYD Sydney Francis, 79 Union-street, traveller
1138 LLOYD William Eagle, 79 Union-street, tie manufacturer

NSW Death 13519/1915 LLOYD WILLIAM E - THOMAS - MARY - ST LEONARDS

LLOYD William Death notice 23JUL1915 Death 63 at North Sydney SMH 24JUL1915


Middle name and age at death don't point to the William Revett baptised 22 Aug 1851. No death has bee found for that one and no birth/baptism for a second one. The other possibility is that there is only one and that he was given both as middle names and chose at times to use Eagle.

Dave

 

[stockpot]

Sorry, can't add to all the work you have already done, I see you have been working on this for a very long time!

Have you looked at the Collins business man from the time of the fire ? William Revett Lloyd had a cousin William Revett Collins, son of his mother's sister Harriet who married in Calcutta 1855 and had 2 children there, Charles Pryce Collins 1855 and William Revett Collins 1857. Harriett died of cholera in Calcutta 1863. In 1871 Charles is with his Revett grandparents in London, can't find William Collins. Maybe still in India with his father ?
Perhaps William Revett Lloyd and brothers went first to India before going on to Australia with Collins cousins? Maybe he is in business with his Collins cousins and takes the name William Eagle to distinguish himself from William Revett Collins?? (not very likely but the best I can do !)

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello stockpot,

Thanks for those details. I didn't realise the business partner was possibly a cousin.

There seems to be no death and no birth/baptism record for a 2nd William so perhaps he did just change middle names.

Dave