Mary Louisa BEAUMONT

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Births Jun 1838
BEAUMONT Mary Louisa Wakefield 22 636

I'd like a look up please for Mary in 1841.

Something is not right. A transcription by British Library (India Office Records) has dob as 17 Nov 1836. I wonder if the author of the tree has chosen the wrong birth reg. Perhaps my Mary Louisa was born in India. I would say by this marriage that it's not the correct birth because the Mary Louisa I'm after married in India 15 Sep 1864.

Marriages Jun 1867
BEAUMONT Mary Louisa Wakefield 9c 6

Can we rule out the 1838 one for sure by finding her father is not Charles.

Can a pob be found to match 17 Nov 1836?

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

only one i can find in Wakefield, Dave but in 51 so do you still need 41?



She is daughter here. The whole of it hasn't come over. It is in Alverthorpe near Wakefield

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Horbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 2328
Folio: 243
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Beaumont 51
Emma Beaumont 48
Elizabeth Beaumont 23
Joseph B Beaumont 21
Eliza Beaumont 19
Mary Louisa Beaumont 12
Sabina Beaumont 10
Wm Greaves Jackson 18

 

[barbarajoh]

The one in the census is here

Marry Louisa Beaumont
Parish: Alverthorpe, St Paul
Baptism Date: 17 Jun 1838
Father's Name: Richard Beaumont
Mother's Name: Anna Beaumont


will look for your one now.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

No need for 1841. I'd say the tree has the wrong birth for Mary Louisa.

I think she was probably born in India and also died in India 28 May 1893.

Bombay Almanac BMDs
Entry from Transcription of Marriage Announcements 1806 - 1867
At Kurnool, Willoughby Thomas Brereton, Lieut. 49th Regt. Madras Native Infantry, to Mary Lousia, daughter of Charles Beaumont, Esq.

Father is Charles. No idea yet if he was in the Army or what he did in India.

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Can't find another Mary Louisa but loads and loads of Marys. Will be why they have gone for that one on the tree but obviously not correct.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, I would say the author of that tree - the only one I can find - has not seen the British Library transcriptions with the full dates for all the family. Pity no places are listed.

Name: Willoughby Thomas BRERETON
Event type: Biography
Start date: 15 Jun
Start year: 1838
End date: 10 Apr
End year: 1915
Biographical notes:
Madras Army, b 15 Jun & bap 1 Aug 1838, Steeple Morden, Cambs, son of Rev Thomas & Louisa Milbourn -Cadet 1857; d 10 Apr 1915 & bur Cossor Cem, Bangalore; m Mary Louisa Beaumont 15 Sep 1864 (b 27 Nov 1836, d 28 May 1893); Thomas Willoughby Selby b 1 Jul 1865, d 19 May 1867; Henry Willoughby b 14 Apr 1867; Mary Louisa Annie b 2 Nov 1868, m 29 Oct 1904; Ada Margaret b 21 Sep 1871, d; 24 Mar 1872; Charles William Francis b 1 Aug 1874, d 8 May 1875
Transcribed by:
British Library
India Office Records Reference:

L/MIL/9/242 f.145
L/AG/23/10/1-2
Source name:
Source year:
Source edition:
Presidency:

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find anything more that helps.

 

[horse]

A bit more to reaffirm the India connection...

FS - with transcription errors:
Name: William Thomas Brerechow Or Brerechonn
Spouse's Name: Mary Dunce Beaumont
Event Date: 15 Sep 1864
Event Place: Kurnool, Madras, India
Father's Name: Thomas Brerechow Or Brerechon
Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Beaumont
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00060-2
System Origin: India-EASy
GS Film number: 521853
***

A possibility..
Indian Army Quarterly List for 1 January 1912
General Text: Surname: Beaumont
Given Name: Charles
Rank: Sub-Condr.
Corps: Bo.
Date of Birth: ---------------
Date of 1st commission: ---------------
Date of Rank: ---------------
Date of Retirement: 31 Oct. 05
Page #: 695
***

Name: Walter Henry BEAUMONT
Event type: Biography
Start date:
Start year: 1837
End date: 12 Mar
End year: 1902
Biographical notes: Madras Inf; bap 13 May 1837 Hackney, Middx, son of Charles, factor, & Louisa Wilson, of Dalston L/MIL/9/231 f.534 - Cadet 1854; ret 09 Aug 1873, d 12 Mar 1902
Transcribed by: British Library
India Office Records Reference:
L/MIL/9/231 f.534
L/AG/23/10/1-2
***

[So her mother could be a Louisa Wilson]

This may be the marriage, there is a district, Dalston in Hackney..
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Charles Beaumont
Spouse Name: Louisa Wilson Selby
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Apr 1828
Parish: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Register

Geoff

 

[horse]

So your find for Mary Louisa's birth on the BL site looks good, but b. England, possibly, unless Charles travelled back and forth from India and b. between travels, there are at least 3 other offspring b. Hackney.

Willoughby Thomas BRERETON
Event type: Biography
Start date: 15 Jun
Start year: 1838
End date: 10 Apr
End year: 1915
Biographical notes: Madras Army, b 15 Jun & bap 1 Aug 1838, Steeple Morden, Cambs, son of Rev Thomas & Louisa Milbourn -Cadet 1857; d 10 Apr 1915 & bur Cossor Cem, Bangalore; m Mary Louisa Beaumont 15 Sep 1864 (b 27 Nov 1836, d 28; May 1893); Thomas Willoughby Selby b 1 Jul 1865, d 19 May 1867; Henry Willoughby b 14 Apr 1867; Mary Louisa Annie b 2 Nov 1868, m 29 Oct 1904; Ada Margaret b 21 Sep 1871, d; 24 Mar 1872; Charles William Francis b 1 Aug 1874, d 8 May 1875
Transcribed by: British Library
India Office Records Reference:
L/MIL/9/242 f.145
L/AG/23/10/1-2

Interesting there is no obvious bap. for Mary Louisa, she was b. a year before Walter Henry!

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Walter Henry Beaumont
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 May 1837
Father's Name: Charles Beaumont
Mother's Name: Louisa Wilson Beaumont
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers
[Charles gives abode as Dalston; Occ: Factor]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Louisa Wilson SELBY is correct.

It looks as though both Willoughby Thomas and Charles travelled back and forth because there are birth reg and some baptisms in England and India.

Births Sep 1865
BRERETON Thomas Willoughby Selby Cuckfield 2b 139


Henry Willoughby b. 14 Apr 1867 so possibly India.

Henry Willoughby BRERETON c. 25 Dec 1867 Medomsley, Durham
Willoughby Thomas & Mary Louisa

1891
Civil Parish: St James Westminster
Registration District: Westminster
Sub-RD: St James Westminster
Address: Bury Street
HB Brereton 23 boarder Lt 3 Middlx Regiment born India

Should be HW.

Dave

 

[horse]

There was a strange 1851 census for Charles b. Twyford, I'll try to find it...

 

[horse]

Here it is...

1851 England Census
Name: Charles Beaumont
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Husband
Spouse's Name: Louisa Beaumont
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Twyford, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Brighthelmstone
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 1r
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Piece: 1646
Folio: 482
Page Number: 33
Name Age
Charles Beaumont 45 [Occ: none]
Louisa Beaumont 44 [Wife, Occ: annuitant]
Mary D Beaumont 20 [Dau]
William Beaumont 12 [son, b. 1839 Dalston]
Mary Selly 74 [b. 1777 Bishop Stortford, name amended to Selby, M-i-L, Occ: annuitant]
George R M Selly 5 [b. 1846, name amended to Selby, nephew]
Mary Dumbrell 23 [servant]
Susan Hines 24 [servant]

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

What's strange about that one?

 

[horse]

Nothing too much but, I thought Twyford was in Berks - Mary D, is that Mary L?

If you're happy with that, maybe 1841 not too diff'

Assuming Charles not away!

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Seems there is a Twyford in 5 counties.

I thought we had something else with mother of Charles as Mary.

Better check for some births/baptisms.

Curious:

Twyford House - Thorley, Hertfordshire - HERE

House. Mid C17, altered and refaced c.1715, further alterations
1835 (by Lewis Vulliamy), 1894 (by F S Brereton)...

Frederick Sadleir Brereton (5 August 1852 – 12 August 1957) was a decorated soldier and an author of children's books on heroic deeds conducted in the name of the British Empire.[1] Brereton was a prolific author. By the time he died he had written over 40 books.

 

[horse]

Yep, but not in Hert's!

 

[horse]

Though there is a Twyford House!

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes. I added a link on #15.

 

[horse]

They are the only reasons I found it strange, i.e. some correct info and some to think about.. :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

D is probably L.

I am thinking about it.

Louisa Wilson Selby
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 13 Jun 1806 County of Middlesex, England
christening: England
parents: Prideaux Selby, Mary