Mary MALCOLM

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Mary MALCOLM b. 27 Apr 1830 c. 30 May 1830 Gorbals, Lanark
Porterfield MALCOLM & Agnes GILMOUR

Archibald Hunter ROBERTSON & Mary Lyle MALCOLM
13 Jul 1855 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark

Death 1915 Mary ROBERTSON (MALCOLM) Hillhead, Lanark Age 86

The death certificate has mother as Mary LYLE and the middle name came from somewhere but I have Agnes GILMOUR as her mother. ???


1017 - Mary Robertson (Widow of Archibald Hunter Robertson Cashier) - 1915 November Nineteenth 7h P.M. 23 Barrington Drive Glasgow - F. - 86 years - Porterfield Malcolm Carpet Weaver (deceased) Mary Malcolm M. S. Lyle (deceased) - Senile Decay Bronchial Catarrh 7 days As cert. by D. Curle M.D.C.M. - Mary Carlson Niece (Present) - 1915 November 22nd At Glasgow John Houston Registrar


Need to find this niece and how she fits into the family.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1855 Marriages in the District of Hutchesontown in the Burgh of Glasgow - Registered by Archibald Monteith ? ... ?

113 - On July Thirteenth 1855 at 109 ...? Place Cumberland Street Glasgow Marriage (after Banns) was solemnized between us according to the Rites and ceremonies of the Baptist Church of Scotland

(Signed) Archibald Hunter Robertson - 109 ... ? Place Cumberland Street Glasgow - 38 Greenside ? Lane Glasgow - 22 - Clerk - Bachelor - Born and Baptized on June 11 1833 at Millport Buteshire - Archibald Robertson and Margaret Robertson Maiden Name Hill ? - Farmer ?

(Signed) Mary Lyle Malcolm - 109 ... ? Place Cumberland Street Glasgow - 38 Greenside ? Lane Glasgow - 23 - .... ? - Spinster - Born on 7th April 1832 at Glasgow - Porterfield Malcolm and Agnes Malcolm Maiden Name Gilmour - Carpet Weaver

(Signed) James Malcolm Minister Baptist Church Sir Michael St. Greenock ?
(Signed) Porterfield Malcolm Witness
(Signed) Margaret Malcolm Witness
1855 At Glasgow Archibald Monteith ? ... ? Registrar


Mary MALCOLM b. 27 Apr 1830 c. 30 May 1830 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
Porterfield MALCOLM & Agnes GILMOUR

 

[DaveHam9]

See this one also:

http://www.forum.familyhistory.uk.com/showthread.php?t=23244

Something does not add up - 27th Apr 1830 and 7th Apr 1832. ???

If the mother is Agnes GILMOUR and not Mary LYLE where does the middle name Lyle come from? Did the niece guess it was Mary Lyle ?

I doubt very much there are two Porterfield MALCOLMs. The mother of the one in my tree is Jean/Janet PORTERFIELD (variations).

 

[DaveHam9]

I'd appreciate some help to fill in the gaps in the transcription or to cast doubt on some of my guesses.

 

[barbarajoh]

Hi Dave,

Hume Place?
Greenside or Queenside

No relation

and i agree Greenock which makes it more likely Greenside. Also agree farmer and Monteith

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

Thanks.

I agree Hume, Greenside and Farmer.

Oh. I've not seen the 'No relation' bit before.

Really stuck on the registrar's family name.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I spent 53 of my 60 credits so I have several marriages and deaths to go though, all with some puzzles to solve.

 

[barbarajoh]

Carlson is a strange kind of name for Scotland I can find two in the 1901 both married to Swedish men.

this is prob the one you want tho

CARLSON, Carl Edward Head Married M 42 1859 Ship Broker
Sweden (Nat British Sub) N/A
CARLSON, Mary M Wife Married F 38 1863
Glasgow, Lanarkshire N/A
CARLSON, Carl E Son M 12 1889 Scholar
Glasgow, Lanarkshire N/A
CARLSON, Edward P Son M 10 1891 Scholar
Lenzie, Dumbartonshire N/A
CARLSON, Emma W Daughter F 4 1897
Lenzie, Dumbartonshire N/A
ROBERTSON, Mary M Wife's Aunt Widow F 70 1831
Glasgow, Lanarkshire


626
Folio:5

Page: 13

Registration District: Cadder

Civil Parish: Cadder

Municipal Borough:

Address: Gowanbrae, Victoria Road, Cadder

County: Lanarkshire

The other is 77 and born in Sweden.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

Yes. I searched and kept getting Carlton.

 

[barbarajoh]

1891

CARLSTON, Edward Head Married M 32 1859 Shipping Agent
Sweden N/A
CARLSTON, Mary Wife Married F 27 1864 Wife Of Agent
Glasgow, Lanarkshire N/A
CARLSTON, Ernest Son M 2 1889
Glasgow, Lanarkshire N/A
CARLSTON, Edward P Son M 0 (7 MO) 1891
Lenzie, Dunbartonshire N/A
ROBERTSON, Mary Ant In Law Widow F 59 1832 House Keeper (Gen Do Sev)
Glasgow, Lanarkshire N/A

Piece:498

Folio:14

Page: 10

Registration District: Kirkintilloch

Civil Parish: Kirkintilloch

Municipal Borough:

Address: Kinnoul, Kirkintilloch

County: Dunbartonshire
Think you will have to save your pennies and get the marriage.


barbara

 

[barbarajoh]

Nice of them to say aunt in law tho so she prob didn't know that much about Mary's side of the family maybe just an aunt by marriage?

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Ant in law :2fun: Very kind of them.

I had two deaths on my list and decided not to get either but to save the 7 credits.


I could understand 27 and 7 April but 1830 and 1832. Unless one died young but then there should be a record for the one born 1832.

The middle name Lyle has me puzzled. I will sleep on that.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

I'm still wondering if they had two daughters they named Mary and the 2nd one was given the middle name Lyle.

Mary b. 27 Apr 1830 ?
Mary Lyle b. 7 Apr 1832 ?

I don't know which side of the family Lyle comes from.

I can find only one Mary born 1830-1832 with father = Porterfield


Variation: Jean, Janet - PAITERFEL, PORTERFEEL, PORTARFIELD

Janet's parents were James Porterfield and Jean Yeats.

That is currently unconfirmed.

Robert MALCOM married Jean/Janet abt 1785 probably in Ayr. I have nothing on Robert. No sign of a Robert born 1730-1780 with mother = Lyle.

Archibald born abt 1786 in Largs, Ayr and then this is the first baptism found so far:

name: James Malcom
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 13 Apr 1788
baptism/christening place: , LARGS, AYR, SCOTLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Robert Malcom
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Janet Porterfeel

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Archibald Monteith

S ? ? l ? r i n ?

S ? h r i n ?

A s s i s t a n t <--- it is not

Ok if his family name is Monteith and it's not Assistant Registrar then what ?


Ha. :2fun: Interim

 

[DaveHam9]

Piece: SCT1841/552 Place: Great Cumbrae -Bute Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Cumbrae Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 1 Page: 2
Address: Downcraig Ferry
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ROBERTSON Archibald M 40 Ferry Man, Spirit Dealer Bute
ROBERTSON Margt F 40 Bute
ROBERTSON James M 16 Joiner Bute
ROBERTSON Robert M 13 Bute
ROBERTSON Janet F 11 Bute
ROBERTSON Archibald M 9 Bute
ROBERTSON Margaret F 7 Bute
Page: 1/3
ROBERTSON William M 3 Bute
MCKINLAY James M 20 Ag Lab Outside Census County (1841)
KENNEDY Helen F 15 Female Servant Bute
MITCHELL Alexander M 45 Merchant Outside Census County (1841)
WATSON Elizabeth F 40 Outside Census County (1841)
MORRISON William M 25 Merchant Outside Census County (1841)
MUNRO Agnes F 23 Outside Census County (1841)
BROWN Elizabeth F 50 Outside Census County (1841)


Piece: SCT1851/552 Place: Cumbray -Bute Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Cumbray Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 3 Schedule: 6
Address: Ferry Farm
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ROBERTSON Archibald Head M M 50 Farmer And Ferryman Bute - Cumbray
ROBERTSON Margaret Wife M F 50 Bute - Cumbray
ROBERTSON Robert Son U M 22 Bute - Cumbray
ROBERTSON Janet Dau U F 20 Bute - Cumbray
ROBERTSON Archibald Son U M 17 Bute - Cumbray
ROBERTSON Margaret Dau U F 15 Bute - Cumbray
ROBERTSON William Sister - M 12 Scholar Bute - Cumbray

 

[DaveHam9]

Archibald junior's middle name is Hunter but this can't be the right one:

Archibald Robertson
Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910
marriage: 13 Jul 1844 Lochwinnoch,​Renfrew,​Scotland
spouse: Margaret Hunter



Robert Robertson
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 16 Feb 1828
christening: 20 Feb 1828 ,​ CUMBRAES,​ BUTE,​ SCOTLAND
residence: 1828 Cumbrae,​ Buteshire,​ Scotland
parents: Archibald Robertson,​ Margaret Hill

...Archibald Robertson and Margaret Robertson Maiden Name Hill - Farmer ...

I'm back to zero credits. :2fun:

22/04/1822 ROBERTSON ARCHIBALD MARGARET HILL/FR1165 (FR1165) M CUMBRAE/BUTE 552/00 0020 0047


From marriage certificate:

Born and Baptized on June 11 1833 at Millport Buteshire

SP has the date as 16 June 1833 Cumbrae, Bute so that's probably the baptism date.