mary smith/archer?

[jayneedge]

hi to all can anyone help me,iv got a relative mary smith born 1818 in stratford upon avon now her son james archer born 1846 is my great great grandad but im trying to find out who his dad is int the 1851 its got that she was married to a james smith he was only 24 and she was 33 and they had 2 other kids wilane 13 and elizabeth 7 but james must have died soon after and all of a sudden james jnr is called archer but mary is still smith can anyone find if she remarried or if she was married before to an archer many thanks

 

[familyman]

hi to all can anyone help me,iv got a relative mary smith born 1818 in stratford upon avon now her son james archer born 1846 is my great great grandad but im trying to find out who his dad is int the 1851 its got that she was married to a james smith he was only 24 and she was 33 and they had 2 other kids wilane 13 and elizabeth 7 but james must have died soon after and all of a sudden james jnr is called archer but mary is still smith can anyone find if she remarried or if she was married before to an archer many thanks

have you any marrital links to the following surnames-gevaux/harper/neale/jackson/white?

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Jayne,

Found this on the LDS site from an extracted record.

James Archer
Christened 4 Dec 1846 Holy Trinity Stratford on Avon Warwickshire
Stratford on Avon,Warwickshire

Father William Archer
Mother Mary



http://www.familysearch.org/ENG/Search/frameset_search.asp

 

[juliejtp]

Also found this:-

1841

Civil parish Old Stratford
Reg district Stratford on Avon
Address Shakespeare Street

Mary Archer age 22 born in county
Wm Archer age 25 occ ag. lab not born in county

This may be the couple on the LDS site, but whether they are yours?

 

[juliejtp]

Found a couple of deaths for a William Archer pre 1851

1. 1847 district Stratford Upon Avon vol 16 page 340
2. 1849 district Stratford Upon Avon vol 16 page 370

 

[juliejtp]

Extracted record from the LDS site

Mary Archer christened 1 Aug 1844
Holy Trinity Stratford On Avon

Father William Archer
Mother Mary

 

[juliejtp]

Not found a marriage between James Smith and Mary Archer.

 

[jayneedge]

hi julie your a godsend thats brilliant i knew mary had to be married before because on the 1851 census i have a mary smith married to a james with kids looks like wilfane 13yrs james looks like 14mths and elizabeth looks like 7 yrs but a lot of the time they called girls mary so it could be her the years tie up and the james she is married to is too young to be their dad,but thats great,i am trying to find a marriage for them but they didnt always get married did they? i cannot find anything on this lad 13yrs mind you im not sure on his name see if you can make head nor tail of it thats if you dont mind again thanks your brill speak to you soon jayne

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Jayne,

Can give the other details for 1851. I cant find this family.

 

[jayneedge]

hi julie the 1851 census i found is they lived at wint cottage and theres james,mary,the one that looks like wilfane?,james ,a girl who is a neice cant see her first name but her second is greenall and elizabeth,hope this helps thanks julie speak to you soon

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Jayne,

The family are called Swift not Smith. Elizabeth age 7 is a Greenall and with a Ann Greenall, they are nieces. Mary was born 1818 Lancashire.

 

[juliejtp]

Jayne,

This may be the Smiths in 1851

Civil parish Old Stratford

Milton Row

Thomas Smith head married age 23 occ labourer in brewery
Mary wife age 30 born Pillerton//Pillsdon (place of birth different)
Mary dau age 6 born Stratford
James son age 3 born Stratford

There is a marriage for a Mary Archer who married in 1849 December 1/4 district Stratford Upon Avon, also a Thomas Smith is listed among others.

Jayne to determine James father you need to get his birth certificate (will give you fathers name and mothers maiden name) and marriage certficate (both fathers names and occupations) as you could end up with the wrong family.