McCARTHY family from Ireland

[DaveHam9]

Ellen b. 14 Sep 1855 c. 7 Oct 1855 Doon Parish, Limerick
- parents Edmond & Honora


Arrived in Brisbane on the vessel 'Venilia' on 15 Oct 1865
McCarthy IMM/112 Pages 230 and 267 M1696
Honora 34
William 13
Margaret 11
Ellen 8 ** should be 10 but image has 8
John 5
Michael 3

Marriage 30 Nov 1872/C0278 Mellefont William Peel - McCarthy Ellen

Toowong Cemetery
Portion 2A Section 31 Grave 23
Mellefont Ellen NR* 30 / 01 / 1932 77 years

The Brisbane Courier - Monday 1 February 1932 p.15
Mrs. E. Mellefont.
The death occurred at her residence, Martin-street, off Bowen-terrace, on Thursday afternoon, of Mrs. Ellen Mellefont, whose late husband was associated with the founding of several newspapers in Queensland. Included amongst them was the "Observer," which, although started at Ipswich, was later removed to Brisbane. The late Mrs. Mellefont was born in Ireland 77 years ago: Her father, the late Mr. Edward McCarthy, brought his family out to Queensland in the sailing ship Venilia, which arrived in Brisbane in October, 1865. ...

Several queries. The baptism has father as Edmund and the obit Edward. I don't have his arrival or his death. I also don't have the right death yet for Honora, 4 possible and can't be this one if age is correct. It's the only one that has born Ireland:

1925/B46764 Honorah McCarthy - Lawlor - ** born Ireland aged 79 years

 

[DaveHam9]

There are deaths for several Edwards and for these two:

1907/B8379 Edmond McCarthy - Donnell McCarthy - Ellen Ahern
1908/C4018 Edmund McCarthy - Edward McCarthy - Violet Frances Smith


Even possible remarriages:

1889/C312 Thomas Muree - Honora McCarthy
1904/C010 Peter Duncan McPherson - Honorah McCarthy

 

[DaveHam9]

There are three trees and none even list Ellen's birth date or names of parents or arrival in Australia.

Looking at Queensland Assisted Immigration there is one Edward in 1864 and no Edmond or Edmund.

Looking at the shipping image there is only Honora and the 5 children.

 

[DaveHam9]

Any trees Geoff?

Anything in TROVE gibbo?

I'm stuck. :biggrin:

 

[horse]

Yuk!!! :biggrin:

I suspect M will last through March and beyond

 

[horse]

These look to be the only 2 arrivals for Edward (Edmond), Dave...

Edward Mccarthy
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1834
Ship Name: Prince Consort
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 2 Nov 1862

Edward Mccarthy
Age: 37
Birth Year: abt 1827
Ship Name: Sultana
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: Maryborough
Arrival Date: 29 Jul 1864

Geoff

 

[horse]

Looking for deaths with parents Edward/Honora there is this...

Margaret O'Neil
Death Date: 19 Sep 1940
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: Edward McCarthy
Mother's name: Honara Ryan
Registration Year: 1940
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 004461
Page Number: 1773

So, Honora Ryan

Geoff

 

[horse]

Looks like Margaret's mar.

Margaret McCarthy
Spouse: John O'Neil
Marriage Date: 12 Aug 1871
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Number: 000233
Page Number: 9519

Geoff

 

[horse]

Honora Sherman
Death Date: 4 Oct 1929
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Edward McCarthy
Mother: Honora Ryan
Registration Year: 1929
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 004308
Page Number: 1606

 

[horse]

Ellen Mellefont
Death Date: 28 Jan 1932
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Edward McCarthy
Mother: Honora Ryan
Registration Year: 1932
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: B016412
Page Number: 1117

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That's progress.

Did you notice I skipped McLuckie? I might even skip Malcolm and Mackellar.

But I won't skip the Martin families. We should finish 'M' by mid March.

Dave

 

[gibbo]

The following is a list of persons nominated for assisted passage to this colony who have been embarked in the ship Venilia which sailed from Plymouth for Moreton Bay on the 19th June last ..
etc etc
M'Carthy, Honora 34
William 13
Margaret 11
Ellen 8
John 5
Michael 3
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...ND "Venilia"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=Venilia

 

[DaveHam9]

Looking for deaths with parents Edward/Honora there is this...

Margaret O'Neil
Death Date: 19 Sep 1940
Death Place: Queensland
Father's Name: Edward McCarthy
Mother's name: Honara Ryan
Registration Year: 1940
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 004461
Page Number: 1773

So, Honora Ryan

Geoff

If I had no marriage and therefore no married name I'd have to search BMD using a*, b*, ...

 

[DaveHam9]

I wonder if this one died young and they named the next daughter Ellen also.

Ellen b. 14 Sep 1855 c. 7 Oct 1855 Doon Parish, Limerick, Ireland
Edmond & Honora

Age in 1865 is listed as 8.

 

[horse]

If I had no marriage and therefore no married name I'd have to search BMD using a*, b*, ...

I just used all first names on Anc..

 

[horse]

I wonder if this one died young and they named the next daughter Ellen also.

Ellen b. 14 Sep 1855 c. 7 Oct 1855 Doon Parish, Limerick, Ireland
Edmond & Honora

Age in 1865 is listed as 8.

Not sure, Dave. The death in post #11 doesn't give aad

 

[horse]

I didn't realise there were 2 Ellen's

 

[DaveHam9]

Dunno Geoff if there is one Ellen and age is out or the one born 1855 died young and another was named Ellen who fits age 8 in 1865.

 

[horse]

Did you notice I skipped McLuckie? I might even skip Malcolm and Mackellar.

But I won't skip the Martin families. We should finish 'M' by mid March.

Dave

Never crossed me mind :2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

... Mr. Edward McCarthy, brought his family out to Queensland in the sailing ship Venilla, ...

That could be taken several ways.

He was the ships Master or he was already in Queensland and paid deposit for them to arrive assisted.

So, which one of the two?


Rule this one out:

MCCARTHY Edmund 19 Hotspur 1863 Sydney Reel 2139, [4/4797]; Reel 2481, [4/4982]