McGRATH & HORN

[DaveHam9]

NSW Birth 14331/1875 HORN ROSE ELENA - EDWARD - MARY ANN - MENINDIE

Qld. Marriage 29 Apr 1893/C0013 McGrath Samuel - Horn Rosie Lena

Qld. Death 31 May 1912/C0049 McGrath Samuel - Thomas McGrath - Normie Rowe * age 45

I can't find Samuel's birth.

?
Vic. Marriage 1915 REED/REID Walter (b. ) - McGRATH Rose (b. ) Vic. #8845

Vic. Death 10321/1963 REED Rose Helena 77 McGRATH Edward Leopold [?] Mary Ann BENNETT b. Queensland ? d. Thornbury, Vic.

If that is the right remarriage and death for Rose Horn then the informant assumed one marriage and therefore her father was a McGrath. Mother looks to be correct. Place of birth is wrong and age is way out.

Or I have the wrong Rose McGrath.

 

[DaveHam9]

Looking for the marriage of Edward Horn to Mary Ann, thanks.

 

[Bootzy]

Death cert – Rose Reed - 10321
died 2 June 1963 – 61 Rossmoyne St Thornbury, Rose Helena Reed h/d age 77 years
parents – Edward Leopold McGrath & Mary Ann Bennett – contractor
Informant A J Reed 61 Rossmoyne st, Thornbury – son,
buried 4 June 1963 Fawkner Cemetery

born Qld, 60 yrs in Vic, 17 yrs in Qld & SA
married Adelaide SA at 21 yrs to Walter Reed – widow at time of death
children: Irene Ruby 53yrs, Arthur James 50 yrs, Leslie Frederick 36 yrs

Rose Elena Horn – 14331/1875 – Edward & Mary Ann – Menindee – NSW BDM
siblings
Mary A Horn -16066/1878 – Menindie
Edward W Horn – 28942/1882 – Menindie – died 1884 Wilcannia


Mary Ann Bennett married 6 Nov 1873 Adelaide SA to Edward Horn – their fathers = William Bennet & August Horn – page 722 Vol 97
Mary Ann Horn died 4 Feb 1889 Qld – William & Anne Bennett – reg 001593 page 6949

Samuel McGrath b 15 Dec 1864 white Hills Vic – Thomas McGrath (1829-1867) & Nanny Rowe (1831-1922) – reg 5731
takes over License Stonehenge Hotel
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/79763868?searchTerm=samuel mcgrath
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/79764520?searchTerm=samuel mcgrath

birth cert for Samuel
Thomas McGrath a miner age 34 from Limerick Ireland & Nanny McGrath nee Rowe age 34 from St Agnes Cornwall

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

SA, Vic, NSW and Qld.

Edward Leopold McGrath is an error by informant.


WHIT =
White Hills
Whitfield
Whitlands
Whittington
Whittlesea

 

[DaveHam9]

McGRATH Thomas
Death
<Unknown Family Name>, Ann
UNKNOWN
<Unknown Family Name>, Richard Grov
DAYL
Age 1
1867
1438/1867


There is no other death in 1867 in SA, Vic, NSW or Qld.

 

[Bootzy]

trees have this for Thomas - Vic 1867
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/87954856?searchTerm=thomas mcgrath

a Benefit organised for widow & family
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/87954951?searchTerm=mcgrath

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

No other ref that he was a miner.


1903 QLD Electoral Roll - Maranoa - Stonehenge
McGRATH Thomas, Stonehenge Hotel, labourer * who is this ? If a son then I can't find a birth or death that fits.
McGRATH Nannie, Stonehenge Hotel, domestic duties
McGRATH Philip, Stonehenge Hotel, labourer

Qld. Death 27 Apr 1917/C01276 McGrath Philip - Thomas McGrath - Nannie Rowe

 

[DaveHam9]

Private Thomas McGrath (1867........)
Back to Surnames of the11th
Born :
Where Born :
Occupation : Soldier
Date Arrived :
Ship Arrived on :
Port Arrived :
Rank on Discharge : :
Date of Army Enlistment :
Where Enlisted Army :
Regimental # :
Date Discharged Army :
Where Discharged :
Died : 1867
Where Died / Buried : Huntley, Ballarat, Victoria
Parents Names :
Spouse's Name : Nanny Rowe
Date Married : 1850
Where Married :South Australia
Spouse's Parents :
Born :
Where Born :
Occupation :
Date Arrived :
Ship Arrived on :
Died :
Where Died / Buried

Someone has added those details re death and spouse but lacking all the important stuff.

I actually doubt it is correct.

 

[DaveHam9]

I dunno.

 

[Bootzy]

From search on Thomas Mcgrath has notes:

An interesting entry on the marriage record was that Thomas was a Corporal in the 11th Regiment.”
Grandfather said that Thomas was miner and a very tall man and had lost his life near Bendigo “in Quicksand”.

m/c details; Thomas McGrath and Nanny Rowe, 29 April 1850, 65/283, St John’s Church Adelaide SA, ages 21 and 18, Corporal 11th Regiment (+can’t read word), Bachelor The Barrack’s T McGrath, Spinster 21/8 William St Nanny Rowe, Clergyman Matthew B Hutt, registered 29 (+can’t read word), witnesses Sargent Hall and Joanna Rowe.

A search at Huntley Shire Offices could only find -
a poster announcing on Friday August 23rd a forthcoming benefit concert by the Sandhurst Philanthropic Club and the Northcote Band for the benefit of the family of the late THOMAS MCGRATH. Attached to the poster was a small newspaper cutting and pencilled beside are the words ‘He is still down there’. No-one in Huntley knew anything further.

There are only 5 of the nine children because the first 3 children were born in SA, the fourth child, Philip, I am not sure where he was born, and 5 in the Bendigo area, Vic.

A visit to Kew & see original records of 11th Regiment going back to 1820’s – Thomas’s military record indicated born in Co Limerick & was only 15 yrs but convinced the recruiting officer he was 17 almost 18.

From the Army records Thomas was born in Ireland and James McGrath and Mary Shuly (also spelt Shuley) are the most likely parents. This agrees with other researches particularly those researching the “Rowe” family. No-one has managed to get any further, after an extensive search.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Ok, it looks ok given this.

Vic. Birth 1867 McGRATH Albert - Thomas - Nancy ROWE -b. White Hills, Vic. #19004

 

[Bootzy]

Children for Thomas & Nanny

John 1851-1906
Thomas 1852 SA-1852
Thomas 1854 Vic -1929 NSW
Phillip 1856-1917
Johanna 1858-1950
John 1859-1906
William 1860-1955
Francis James 1862-1938
Samuel 1864-1912
Albert John 1867-1942

son Thomas b 27 Jan 1854 White Hill Vic – at Stonehenge Hotel 1903 & 1905 with mum Nannie, & brothers
1913 Thomas at Bimerah Statio Longreach a lab, Mum Nannie & brothers Albert,Phillip & Samuel still at Stonehenge Hotel

McGrath – June 28 at his residence 67 Avoca st Randwick, Thomas McGrath aged 74 years – Interred Methodist Cemetery Rookwood Sat 29 June 1929 – NSW reg 13467
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16559375?searchTerm=thomas mcgrath

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

 

[DaveHam9]

SA Marriage
HORN Edward FLy S (f August HORN) - BENNETT Mary Ann FLy S (f William BENNETT)
m. 6 Nov 1873 at St Paul Adelaide dist Ade Book 97 p.722