MENTIPLAY & CARSTAIRS

[DaveHam9]

"Thomas Mentiplay was born Sep 28 1834 Pittenween, Fife" [Not found]

"Margaret Doris Carstairs was born Sep 22 1846 Cellardyke, Fife" [Not found]

Arrivals not yet found.

Marriage 1863 MENTIPLAY Thomas (b. ) - CARSTAIRS Margaret (b. ) Vic. #1932

I have no idea if parents as listed are correct but there are errors somewhere.

Death 1926 MENTIPLAY Thos 91 - Wm - Elizth ANDERSON d. Somerville, Vic. #7541

Death 1935 MENTIPLAY Margt 90 CARSTAIRS Jno - Mary MURRAY d. Somerville, Vic. #16965

 

[DaveHam9]

If this is Margaret then John & Agnes not John & Mary.

1851
Civil Parish: Kilrenny
Town: Cellardyke
County: Fife
Roll: CSSCT1851_90 Page 9
ED: 4
Address: 11 House
John Carstairs Head 41 Fisherman Cellardyke
Agnes Carstairs Wife 32 Pitterween
John Carstairs 9
Margaret Carstairs 6
William Carstairs 4
James Carstairs 2
Agnes Carstairs 1
[Offspring all b. Cellardyke]

 

[DaveHam9]

If this is Thomas then William & Janet not William & Elizabeth.

Piece: SCT1841/452 Place: Pittenween -Fife ED: 2
Civil Parish: Pittenweem Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 12
Address: West Shore
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BOWMAN Isobell F 70 Widow Fife
MENTIPLY William M 30 Fisherman Fife
MENTIPLY Janet F 30 Fife
MENTIPLY Thomas M 5 Fife
MENTIPLY William M 3 Fife

 

[Bootzy]

The Argus – Tues 10 Sept 1935 - Margaret
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/...=margaret mentiplay&searchLimits=l-decade=193

her orbit - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/...=margaret mentiplay&searchLimits=l-decade=193

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

 

[gibbo]

Maybe a brother for your Thomas
???

Event: deaths
Registration number12076 / 1906
Family name: MENTIPLAY
Given name(s) Wm
Place of event: Brswk, Australia
Mother's name<Unknown Family Name>, Betsy
Mother's family name at birth ANDERSON
Father's Name:<Unknown Family Name>, Mentiplay Wm
.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Fits with this marriage just found.

MENTIPLY
WILLIAM
BETSY ANDERSON/
12/11/1831
452/
40 263
Pittenweem

Death reg has William & Elizth Anderson

 

[gibbo]

I think Betsy can be short for Elizabeth??

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes. Betty/Betsy/Betsey. I have several from Scotland in my tree.

One more to look for in Shipping records.

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't find a marriage for John Carstairs/Carstars to an Agnes or Mary Murray.

 

[DaveHam9]

Agnes looks to be Ferguson. No births with mother = Mary Murray.

CARSTAIRS
JOHN
JOHN CARSTAIRS/AGNES FERGUSON
M
09/06/1841
438/
30 76
Kilrenny

So, don't know if Mary Murray is correct or not.

 

[DaveHam9]

Better look for another John Carstairs with daughter Margaret born abt 1846 in 1851.

One other Margaret in Kilrenny with parents Thomas & Margaret.

 

[gibbo]

If names are anything to go by Margaret's death notice has a daughter named Agnes so maybe Margaret's mother is a Agnes??

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/203862522
.

 

[DaveHam9]

MENTIPLAY
William Angus
Death
<Unknown Family Name>, Betsy
MCDONALD
<Unknown Family Name>, William
SAND
<Unknown Family Name>
10 Months
1874
3180/1874

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

It looks as of Mary Murray is an error by informant.

I'm looking for early events in Vic. to narrow down arrival.

MENTIPLAY
William
Marriage
MCDONALD, Elizabeth
1869
884/1869

 

[gibbo]

Event:deaths
Registration number4341 / 1858
Family name: CARSTAIRS
Given name(s)John
Mother's name<Unknown Family Name>, Agnes
Mother's family name at birth FERGUSON
Father's Name:<Unknown Family Name>, John

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Agnes Ferguson it is then.

Carstairs 1851 - 1858

Mentiplay 1863 earliest so far.

 

[gibbo]

Thanks gibbo.

Agnes Ferguson it is then.

Carstairs 1851 - 1858

Mentiplay 1863 earliest so far.

Maybe your fella earlier than 1863?? It has Mentiply not Mentiplay

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957)
Wednesday 4 August 1858
etc .... F. Cutts; 1 cask nets, Thos. Mentiply ; 1 box, T. O. Barrett ; 2 boxes etc....
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/7298688
.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Mentiply in census and Mentiplay in Vic. in later years.

William was a fisherman in Vic as well. Lots of articles in Trove. He did not like certain lakes being closed to fishing for many months of the year.

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find either family in Assisted or Unassisted on PROV.