Military Regimental Births, Marriages & Deaths

[philrobenn]

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can help with this. In the Military Foot Regiments where were the soldiers children baptized, where were the Soldiers married and where were the death ceremonies preformed. Why I ask is that I have a number of ancestors who were involved with the Foot Regiments (52nd & 43rd Regiments) from 1830-1880 periods and have obtained the "Military Certificates" for either births, marriages and deaths but are wanting to know where these events would have taken place, e.g. a church or a chapel within the barracks? Thanks and I look forward to any answers or suggestions.
Phil

 

[p.risboy]

My Gt. Grandfather was baptized in 1851 @ Brompton, in Kent. Son of a soldier in the 1st Batt. 12th Regiment of Foot.

There is no church mentioned on the baptism cert, which I obtained from the GRO via a phone call, under the Registration of Births, Deaths & Marriages(Special Provisions) Act 1957. (Nineteen Fifty Seven.)

His birth was also registered, and on the cert it gave Chatham Barracks.

This baptism was certified by his commanding officer.

There is, or was a Garrison Church, of St Barbara. Brompton, being a parish of Chatham, in Kent,.

His parents were married in the local Church(Weedon Bec, Northants), where they were stationed at the time.

Local Church registers would be the only other source depending on where they were stationed. Check for Churches in the district of birth, if possible.

I would also check FreeReg, as my relative appears in their records. http://www.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/new

I hope this helps.

Steve.

 

[philrobenn]

Hi Steve
The examples I have are that two marriages are certified by Military Certificates but the actual marriages were preformed in a church, where there is a church record. I have always looked at it as if the event was a Military Certificate then the event took place within the military (barracks) itself and not in a church.
Phil

 

[p.risboy]

Hi Steve
The examples I have are that two marriages are certified by Military Certificates but the actual marriages were preformed in a church, where there is a church record. I have always looked at it as if the event was a Military Certificate then the event took place within the military (barracks) itself and not in a church.
Phil

It should also have a civil registration, even though the event occurred 'in house'. That's if the event happened after 1st July 1837. This will mean ordering the cert to find out where the event occurred.

Like I said, my Military baptism/birth was certified by his commanding officer, and there was also a civil birth registration. They are two different things, for the same event, and both certs were purchased. The military one, and the civil one.

Luckily for me, they were in 1851.

 

[thecelticbard]

Phil, Hi. If you've looked at the 'Wikipedia' listing for the 43rd Regiment of Foot, you will see that it mentions 'Monmouthshire '. Does any of your research include this, if so, please let me know? The Royal Welsh Museum at Brecon, South Wales includes 'The Monmouthshire Regiment', so if your information can be connected to that, you may be able to find out more information from them.
Hope this helps.

Brian

 

[philrobenn]

Hi Brian
This particular soldier (distant ancestor) was in the 52nd Regiment of Foot (which later became the 43rd Regiment of Foot). Three of his sons were also in the 43rd Regiment of Foot, one of those being my Great Grandfather. My initial inquiry concerned his marriage (of which I have the "Military" Certificate) but there was also a church entry for this marriage on 25th July 1835 (before Civil registration). Were they married in a) The church or b) The Barracks or c) Both? I'm also very surprised that there were an entry for them in the Catholic Church in Enniskillan, Fermanagh, Ireland, as they weren't of that religion but of Church of England, being all born in England. The wife went on to marry another two times (her first two husbands dieing from sickness) and those other marriages also were Military marriages, have certificates and a church register entry for the last one in Madras, Fort of St George. None of the husbands nor their wife came from Oxfordshire.

Phil

 

[thecelticbard]

Hi Phil, the 43rd/52nd became the Oxford & Buckinghamshire Light Infantry and have since become merged and changed their name to Royal Green Jackets and now, (not 100% sure) could be part of "The Rifles". However having said that, the reasons for such certificates being issued and the answers you are seeking may well be known by those in the National Army Museum in London or even the Museum connected to the Regiment.

Sorry I can't offer anything more positive than that.

Brian