MILLER family from Dorset

[gaelwyn]

I'm researching the MILLER family of Chideock, Dorset.
Parents were Joseph MILLER and Elizabeth WAKELY who married in 1805.
I have easily traced the male children, except for one, but the females have been elusive
I'm looking for Martha Miller b. 1814 & Jane Miller b. 1821
I found Jane Miller as servant in Melcombe Regis in 1851 UK census, but nothing after!
John Miller b. 1817 has been elusive as common name too

Cheers Gail

 

[Ladybird1300]

There is a marriage for a John Miller widower:

Name: John Miller
Marriage Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 21 Jan 1841
Marriage Place: Chideock, Dorset, England
Spouse: Mary Garbutt

Unfortunately there aren't any father's mentioned on the marriage certificate. Mary is a widow too.

This is the same John Miller in 1841, could be related:

Name: John Mitter
[John Miller]
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Chideock
Hundred: Whitchurch Canonicorum
County/Island: Dorset
Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch Canonicorum
John Mitter 35
Mary Mitter 40
Emma Mitter 10
Eliza Mitter 8
Caroline Mitter 6
Maria Mitter 4

Amanda

 

[emeltee]

Not having much luck with John or Martha but this could be Jane in 1851

HO107/1857/F226/p6
5 Frederick Place, Melcombe Regis, Weymouth
Henrietta Bartlett Head Widow 68 Middlesex
Hester Dyke 42 Servant Somerset
Agnes McLean Head Widow 48 Scotland
Jane Miller single 29 Servant Chideock, Dorset.

Emeltee

 

[Ladybird1300]

There is marriage for a Jane:

Name: Jane Miller
Marriage Age: Minor
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1858
Marriage Place: Symondsbury, Dorset, England
Father: Joseph Miller
Spouse: Alfred James Reason

It's the spouse that's the minor not Jane.

Amanda

 

[gaelwyn]

There is a marriage for a John Miller widower:

Name: John Miller
Marriage Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 21 Jan 1841
Marriage Place: Chideock, Dorset, England
Spouse: Mary Garbutt

Unfortunately there aren't any father's mentioned on the marriage certificate. Mary is a widow too.

This is the same John Miller in 1841, could be related:

Name: John Mitter
[John Miller]
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Chideock
Hundred: Whitchurch Canonicorum
County/Island: Dorset
Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch Canonicorum
John Mitter 35
Mary Mitter 40
Emma Mitter 10
Eliza Mitter 8
Caroline Mitter 6
Maria Mitter 4

Amanda

Thanks Amanda, but the John Mitter (Miller) in the census is 10yrs older than 'my' John, so not sure they would make such an error??

Gail

 

[gaelwyn]

Not having much luck with John or Martha but this could be Jane in 1851

HO107/1857/F226/p6
5 Frederick Place, Melcombe Regis, Weymouth
Henrietta Bartlett Head Widow 68 Middlesex
Hester Dyke 42 Servant Somerset
Agnes McLean Head Widow 48 Scotland
Jane Miller single 29 Servant Chideock, Dorset.

Emeltee

Yes that's the only census record I found ... nothing in 1841

 

[gaelwyn]

There is marriage for a Jane:

Name: Jane Miller
Marriage Age: Minor
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1858
Marriage Place: Symondsbury, Dorset, England
Father: Joseph Miller
Spouse: Alfred James Reason

It's the spouse that's the minor not Jane.

Amanda

Do you think Jane, as a 37 yr old, would marry someone almost 20yrs younger?? Have you found them in the 1861 census yet, Amanda??

 

[Bootzy]

Dec 25th 1858 Parish Church of Symondsbury – Alfred James Reason Minor batchelor labourer – father William Reason (Lab) to Jane Miller full age Spinster – father Joseph Miller (Lab)

9 June 1863 –Parish Church of Bothenhampton in the County of Dorset
Alfred James Reason full age a Widower – labourer – father William Reason (lab) to Elizabeth Travers Way – spinster – father George Way (Lab)

A death for a Jane Reason March qtr 1859 Reading Vol 2c page 253

Or did they split up and her death as Jane Miller - March qtr 1860 Sherborne Vol 5a page 291

 

[gaelwyn]

Dec 25th 1858 Parish Church of Symondsbury – Alfred James Reason Minor batchelor labourer – father William Reason (Lab) to Jane Miller full age Spinster – father Joseph Miller (Lab)

9 June 1863 –Parish Church of Bothenhampton in the County of Dorset
Alfred James Reason full age a Widower – labourer – father William Reason (lab) to Elizabeth Travers Way – spinster – father George Way (Lab)

A death for a Jane Reason March qtr 1859 Reading Vol 2c page 253

Or did they split up and her death as Jane Miller - March qtr 1860 Sherborne Vol 5a page 291

Thanks Bootzy
Going by the places of marriage, I'd go with your theory that Jane died in Sherborne in 1860

Cheers Gail xx

 

[emeltee]

Sorry about the repetition of the Census details - I really must start reading the posts properly!

Going on where Jane was in 1851 could this be her in 1841. Age is out but then 1841 has never been accurate.

HO107/295/15/F9/p12
Belvidere, Melcombe Regis, Weymouth
Head of Household Gore Brown
Jane Miller 25 Female Servant born Dorset.

Emeltee

 

[horse]

A death for a Jane Reason March qtr 1859 Reading Vol 2c page 253

Or did they split up and her death as Jane Miller - March qtr 1860 Sherborne Vol 5a page 291

Jane Reason 1859 age = 80y

Jane Miller 1860 age = 84y

Geoff

 

[Ladybird1300]

Thanks Amanda, but the John Mitter (Miller) in the census is 10yrs older than 'my' John, so not sure they would make such an error??

Gail

I never actually said this John was yours, I said he may be related. It is possible that Jane married someone much younger than herself, people marry for all sorts of reasons.

Amanda

 

[horse]

Looking at siblings of Jane, if this is a brother...

Reuben Miller
Baptism Date: 23 Jul 1824
Baptism Place: Chideock, Dorset
Parents = Joseph Miller & Elizabeth Miller
FHL Film Number: 002427513

This could be them..

1871
RD: Chippenham
Add: Looks like Keeper's House
Ref: Piece: 1894; Folio: 56; Page: 21
Reuben Miller 46 [b. Chiddock. sic] Chideock
Mary Miller 47
John Talbot Stamp Miller 17
Ereminia Georgenia Miller 14
Eva Elizabeth Miller 13
Rosa Amenda Miller 11
Edgar Stamp Miller 7
Samuel Joseph Miller 4
Jane Fowler 49 sister, mar. [b. Chiddock. Dress Maker]
Elizabeth Emma 16

Geoff

 

[horse]

Possible, ..

1861
RD: Islington
Add: Looks like Canterbury Road
Ref: RG 9; Piece: 143; Folio: 43; Page: 15
Jane Romler 39 mar. [b. Bridport, Dorset. Dressmaker] Subscriber comment "Fowler rather than Romler"
Eliza E Romler 6
Charles H Romler 2

Eliza E has mmn = Miller. b. Q3 1854 Edmonton

Geoff

 

[horse]

If the 1861 census is correct this looks likely..

Marriages Q3 1851
FOWLER James Charles
Miller Jane
Shoreditch
2, 439

London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Jane Miller [spinster]
Marriage Date: 22 Sep 1851
Marriage Place: Holy Trinity, Hoxton, Hackney
Father: Joseph Miller
Spouse: James Charles Fowler [bachelor]
Spouse Father: Henry Fowler
Register Type: Parish Register
[Image has James occ = Policeman. Jane's father = labourer]

Geoff

 

[gaelwyn]

Sorry about the repetition of the Census details - I really must start reading the posts properly!

Going on where Jane was in 1851 could this be her in 1841. Age is out but then 1841 has never been accurate.

HO107/295/15/F9/p12
Belvidere, Melcombe Regis, Weymouth
Head of Household Gore Brown
Jane Miller 25 Female Servant born Dorset.

Emeltee

No worries
That 1841 census also looks good and it is always 5 yrs out, being guesstimated by the census taker and transcription person As I haven't seen Jane anywhere else, then I'll take it

 

[gaelwyn]

Looking at siblings of Jane, if this is a brother...

Reuben Miller
Baptism Date: 23 Jul 1824
Baptism Place: Chideock, Dorset
Parents = Joseph Miller & Elizabeth Miller
FHL Film Number: 002427513

This could be them..

1871
RD: Chippenham
Add: Looks like Keeper's House
Ref: Piece: 1894; Folio: 56; Page: 21
Reuben Miller 46 [b. Chiddock. sic] Chideock
Mary Miller 47
John Talbot Stamp Miller 17
Ereminia Georgenia Miller 14
Eva Elizabeth Miller 13
Rosa Amenda Miller 11
Edgar Stamp Miller 7
Samuel Joseph Miller 4
Jane Fowler 49 sister, mar. [b. Chiddock. Dress Maker]
Elizabeth Emma 16

Geoff

Wow, thanks Geoff xx
Yes Reuben was Jane's younger brother and now I have a name to follow

Cheers Gail