MOODIE family in Fife in 1841

[DaveHam9]

I'd like a look up please for the following MOODIE family in Fife in 1841. Probably Dunfermline and some of the children, all born Dunfermline, may not be there by 1841.

James b. abt 1792 Carnock, Fife
Ann / Agnes b. abt 1798 Dunfermline (Agnes on the marriage)
Janet b. 1824
Christian b. 1827
Ann b. 1830
Elizabeth b. 1832
Robert T b. 1834

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

I'd like a look up please for the following MOODIE family in Fife in 1841. Probably Dunfermline and some of the children, all born Dunfermline, may not be there by 1841.

James b. abt 1792 Carnock, Fife
Ann / Agnes b. abt 1798 Dunfermline (Agnes on the marriage)
Janet b. 1824
Christian b. 1827
Ann b. 1830
Elizabeth b. 1832
Robert T b. 1834

Thanks.

Dave

G'day Dave

1841 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Clackmannan
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: Clackmannan

MOODIE James 1801 age 40 Engine Keeper Scotland
MOODIE Ann 1801 age 40 Scotland
MOODIE Eliza 1820 age 21 Coal Wheeler Scotland
MOODIE James 1826 age 15 Engine Keeper Scotland
MOODIE Janet 1826 age 15 Scotland
MOODIE Christian 1827 age 14 Scotland
MOODIE Ann 1831 age 10 Scotland
MOODIE Betsy 1833 age 8 Scotland
MOODIE Robert 1835 age 6 Scotland
MOODIE Adam 1839 age 2 Scotland


cheers
crankypants (from a very wet "yes we have rain" day in Adelaide):biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Rain? Really? We will get some next month.

Thank you. That's interesting for several reasons. At first I thought it can't be the same family in Clackmannan because I don't have Eliza, James or Adam. But, I checked the death certificate for 1859 and it said Ann was the wife of an 'engineman'. Interestingly the death certificate says the informant was daughter Christina. The census agrees with the birth reg - Christian. I wonder if the death certificate should say 'son' then?

They married in 1818 so that fits ok.

Please see if you can find them in 1851. Thanks. James died in 1874 and spouse Ann in 1859.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hello crankypants,

Rain? Really? We will get some next month.

Thank you. That's interesting for several reasons. At first I thought it can't be the same family in Clackmannan because I don't have Eliza, James or Adam. But, I checked the death certificate for 1859 and it said Ann was the wife of an 'engineman'. Interestingly the death certificate says the informant was daughter Christina. The census agrees with the birth reg - Christian. I wonder if the death certificate should say 'son' then?

They married in 1818 so that fits ok.

Please see if you can find them in 1851. Thanks. James died in 1874 and spouse Ann in 1859.

Regards,

Dave

Hi Dave

1851 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Inverkeithing
Town: Milesmark
County: Fife
Address: Milesmark

MOODIE James 1795 age 56 Engineman Coal Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Ann 1797 age 54 Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Ann 1830 age 21 Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Betsy 1832 age 19 Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Robert 1834 age 17 Coal Miner Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Adam 1841 age 10 Scholar Dunfermline, Fife
MCLAREN Janet visitor 1826 age 25 Kackmanan
MCLAREN Anne visitor 1846 age 5 Kackmanan, Fife

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. The children missing from my list that appeared in the 1841 census can't be found in IGI. That explains why I didn't have them but not why they don't have entries.

There is an entry for a Robert Taylor MOODIE and for others with that middle name with father James and a totally different mother. So I'm a bit puzzled now. I picked up the incorrect birth date for Robert thinking he had a middle name. It looks as though the Robert in this family does not have a middle name of Taylor and is not in IGI either.

Ann died in Inverkeithing in 1859 and spouse James in 1874 in Dunfermline.

Please see if you can find James and any family in 1861 & 1871.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Crankypants,



Robert Taylor MOODIE b. 23 Jul 1834 Dunfermline, Fife
James MOODIE & Ann KELTIE
Batch: C119505

That does appear in IGI. redf)

But this is not a match for James born about 1826:

James Taylor MOODIE Birth: 12 SEP 1828
Christening: 28 SEP 1828 Aberdour, Fife, Scotland
Father: JAMES MOODIE Mother: CHRISTIAN ANNAN

They married on 8 May 1818 in Saline, Fife and their 2nd child was born in Dunfermline so this is a possibility for Eliza:

Elisabeth MOODIE b. 4 Aug 1819 c. 8 Aug 1819 Culross, Perth, Scotland
James MOODIE Mother: Anne KITTEN

I have checked for other marriages in Fife for James MOODIE 1820 +/- 10 years and have found 3, including this one:

Spouse: CHRISTIAN ANNAN
Marriage: 17 JAN 1825 Aberdour, Fife

So that matches the birth of James Taylor MOODIE in 1828.

My James didn't marry twice as far as I can see. From spouse Ann's death certificate: (It matches where they were living in 1851 census)
Death: 1859; Milesmark, Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland; recorded at Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; Ann Moodie; wife of an engineman; married; age 61

So, by chance we have two James MOODIE in Fife giving one of their children a middle name of Taylor?

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. The children missing from my list that appeared in the 1841 census can't be found in IGI. That explains why I didn't have them but not why they don't have entries.

There is an entry for a Robert Taylor MOODIE and for others with that middle name with father James and a totally different mother. So I'm a bit puzzled now. I picked up the incorrect birth date for Robert thinking he had a middle name. It looks as though the Robert in this family does not have a middle name of Taylor and is not in IGI either.

Ann died in Inverkeithing in 1859 and spouse James in 1874 in Dunfermline.

Please see if you can find James and any family in 1861 & 1871.

Thanks.

Dave

Hi Dave

Did James MOODIE remarry after Ann's death?

1861 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Landward
County: Fife
Address: Milesmark

MOODIE James head 1796 age 65 Black Smiths Lab Carnock, Fifeshire
MOODIE Jane wife 1811 age 50 Carnock, Fifeshire

1871 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Landward
County: Fife
Address: 3 Blackburn

MOODIE James head 1791 age 80 Retired Labourer Carnock, Fifeshire
MOODIE Jane wife 1810 age 61Wife Of Labourer Carnock, Fifeshire

cheers
crankypants

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1861 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Bathgate
County: West Lothian
Address: Branch Turnpike (west Side)

BEVERIDGE James head 1832 age 29 Coal Miner Dalgetty, Fife
BEVERIDGE Elizabeth wife 1834 age 27 Dunfermline, Fife
BEVERIDGE James son 1853 age 8 Dunfermline, Fife
BEVERIDGE Robert son 1855 age 6 Cambusnethan, Lanark
BEVERIDGE David son 1856 age 5 Cambusnethan, Lanark
MOODIE Adam brother-in-law 1841 age 20 Teacher (ordinary Branch) Dunfermline, Fife

1871 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Whitburn
County: West Lothian
Address: No 71

BEVERIDGE James head 1832 age 39 Coal Miner Dalgety, Fifeshire
BEVERIDGE Elizabeth wife 1835 age 36 Inverkeithing, Fifeshire
BEVERIDGE James son 1853 age 18 Coal Miner Dunfermline, Fifeshire
BEVERIDGE Robert son 1855 age 16 Coal Miner Cambusnethan, Lanark
BEVERIDGE David son 1857 age 14 Coal Miner Cambusnethan, Lanark
BEVERIDGE Elizabeth daur 1862 age 9 Bathgate, Linlithgow
BEVERIDGE Thomas son 1864 age 7 Bathgate, Linlithgow
BEVERIDGE William son 1866 age 5 Bathgate, Linlithgow

1871 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 22 Strathmartine Rd

MOODIE Adam head 1841 age 30 Teacher (ordinson Brancks)
MOODIE Jane wife 1850 age 21 Living M Dress Forockham, Forfar
MOODIE Susan daur 1866 age 5 Kinclaven, Perth
MOODIE Jane Ann daur 1869 age 2 Dundee, Forfar
MOODIE James H H son 1871 3 Mo - -

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I dunno, yet...

Some things don't add up. In 1851 it says he was born in Dunfermline but he was actually born in Carnock. I doubt he was a blacksmith after being an engineman. In 1861 something is wrong with the parish and address - Milesmark is in Inverkeithing.

On 15th May 1891, the following subjects were transferred from the parish of Inverkeithing to the parish of Dunfermline: ...Milesmark...

This would be the marriage, but it meant he returned to the town of his birth to marry.

Spouse: Jane HUTTON
Marriage: 2 DEC 1859 Carnock, Fife
Batch: M114141

In 1871 his age and place of birth are spot on. He was born on 2 Nov 1792 Carnock.

I guess you won't find a 90 yo James Moodie in 1881 with spouse Jane. :biggrin:

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hello Crankypants,

James Taylor MOODIE Birth: 12 SEP 1828
Christening: 28 SEP 1828 Aberdour, Fife, Scotland
Father: JAMES MOODIE Mother: CHRISTIAN ANNAN


I have checked for other marriages in Fife for James MOODIE 1820 +/- 10 years and have found 3, including this one:

Spouse: CHRISTIAN ANNAN
Marriage: 17 JAN 1825 Aberdour, Fife

So that matches the birth of James Taylor MOODIE in 1828.

Hi Dave

This might be James Taylor MOODIE.

1841 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Inverkeithing
County: Fife
Address: High Street

MOODIE James 1801 age 40 Innkeeper Ap Deal Fife, Scotland
MOODIE Christian 1800 age 41 Scotland
MOODIE James 1829 age 12 Fife, Scotland
MOODIE Jane 1831 age 10 Fife, Scotland
MOODIE John 1834 age 7 Fife, Scotland
ANNAN Jane 1806 age 35 Scotland
ANNAN Mary 1815 age 26 Scotland
ROSS Mary 1837 age 4 Scotland

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

That confirms there is another family and that James Taylor born 1828 is not my James born abt 1826. I still find it very curious the the extracted IGI entry for Robert Taylor MOODIE has Ann KELTIE as his mother. I suppose it means the two MOODIE families must be connected recently for both to be using Taylor as a middle name for their children.

Thanks, that is Adam born 1839 in Dunfermline - now a school teacher.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Robert Taylor MOODIE married Agnes CAMPBELL in 1852 Dunfermline.

Robert. b. 1834
Agnes b. 1834
John b. 1855
Margaret b. 1857
Robert b. 1859
Andrew b. 1861
Adam b. 1863
Ann K b. 1865 **

Please see if you can find them in 1861 and 1871.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hello crankypants,

Robert Taylor MOODIE married Agnes CAMPBELL in 1852 Dunfermline.

Robert. b. 1834
Agnes b. 1834
John b. 1855
Margaret b. 1857
Robert b. 1859
Andrew b. 1861
Adam b. 1863
Ann K b. 1865 **

Please see if you can find them in 1861 and 1871.

Thanks.

Dave

Hi Dave

Scotland census still down but found a way through the Historical Records tab, it's fairly long winded as you can't do exact searches and can only search by country and country, no birth town, address etc.

1861 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Landward
County: Fife
Address: Elgin Colliery

MOODIE Robert head 1835 age 26 Coal Engine Keeper Dunfermline, Fifeshire
MOODIE Agnes wife 1835 age 26 Preston Paris, Midlothian
MOODIE John son 1856 age 5 Dunfermline, Fifeshire
MOODIE Margt daur 1858 age 3 Dunfermline, Fifeshire
MOODIE Robert son 1860 age 1 Dunfermline, Fifeshire

1871 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Landward
County: Fife
Address: 14 South Row

MOODIE Robert head 1835 age 36 Engine Keeper Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Agnes wife 1834 age 37 Andrie, Lanark
MOODIE John son 1856 age 15 Coal Miner Inverkeithing, Fife
MOODIE Margt daur 1858 age 13 Factory Weaver Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Robert son 1860 age 11 Scholar Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Andrew son 1862 age 9 Scholar Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Adam son 1864 age 7 Scholar Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Ann daur 1866 age 5 Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Matthew son 1868 age 3 Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Janet daur 1870 age 1 Dunfermline, Fife

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. They don't agree where Agnes was born. Oh, well.

Please see if you can find them in 1881. Thanks. Ann Keltie MOODIE born 1865 is the 'proof' with that middle name of the connection. I'm interested in tracing her especially.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. They don't agree where Agnes was born. Oh, well.

Please see if you can find them in 1881. Thanks. Ann Keltie MOODIE born 1865 is the 'proof' with that middle name of the connection. I'm interested in tracing her especially.

Thanks.

Dave

Hi Dave

As you who expect Agnes birthplace changed again and Ann doesn't want to show her middle name.:'(

1881 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: High St

MOODIE Robert head 1835 age 46 Enginekeeper Dunfm, Fifeshire
MOODIE Agnes wife 1834 age 47 Enginekeeper Wife Grane, Preston
MOODIE Andrew son 1862 age 19 Enginekeeper Dunfm, Fifeshire
MOODIE Adam son 1864 age 17 General Labourer Dunfm, Fifeshire
MOODIE Ann daur 1866 age 15 Cotton Weaver Dunfm, Fifeshire
MOODIE Matthew son 1868 age 13 General Labourer Dunfm, Fifeshire
MOODIE Janet daur 1870 age 11 Scholar Dunfm, Fifeshire
MOODIE James son 1872 age 9 Scholar Dunfm, Fifeshire
MOODIE Agnes daur 1874 age 7 Scholar Dunfm, Fifeshire

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. I'm still fishing for death ranges or children missing because they marry. So far I don't have any deaths for any of the family. I can't find a Ann Keltie MOODIE marriage.

Please see who you can find in 1891.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. I'm still fishing for death ranges or children missing because they marry. So far I don't have any deaths for any of the family. I can't find a Ann Keltie MOODIE marriage.

Please see who you can find in 1891.

Thanks.

Dave

Hi Dave

1891 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: Main St

MOODIE Robert head 1835 age 56 Formerly Engineman Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Agnes wife 1854 age 37 N K, Mid Lothian
MOODIE Matthew son 1868 age 23 Coal Miner Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE James son 1872 age 19 Bricklayer Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Agnes daur 1874 age 17 Cotton Weaver Dunfermline, Fife

1901 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Dunfermline
County: Fife
Address: 1 Moodie Place

MOODIE Robert head 1834 age 67 Colliery Enginekelper Refired Crossgates, Fifeshire
MOODIE Agnes wife 1833 age 68 Prestongrange
HUNTER Agnes daur 1874 age 27 Parnuruck, Fifeshire (Alternate name Agnes Moodie)
HUNTER Robert son-in-law 1872 age 29 Coal Miner Townhill, Fifeshire
MOODIE Maggie Gr Daur 1900 age 1 Townhill, Fifeshire

wonder if they name the address after him?

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. They probably did. Or he created his own street and named it himself.

"Enginekelper Refired" :biggrin:

Prestongrange is in East or Midlothian depending what site you look at. Looks like the 37 should be 57.

Very nice saying Agnes married a HUNTER.

Elizabeth MOODIE married James BEVERIDGE on 20 Oct 1851 so that fits.

And no sign of Ann.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

1871
Civil Parish: Whitburn
County: West Lothian
Address: No 71
BEVERIDGE James head 1832 age 39 Coal Miner Dalgety, Fifeshire
BEVERIDGE Elizabeth wife 1835 age 36 Inverkeithing, Fifeshire
BEVERIDGE James son 1853 age 18 Coal Miner Dunfermline, Fifeshire
BEVERIDGE Robert son 1855 age 16 Coal Miner Cambusnethan, Lanark
BEVERIDGE David son 1857 age 14 Coal Miner Cambusnethan, Lanark
BEVERIDGE Elizabeth daur 1862 age 9 Bathgate, Linlithgow
BEVERIDGE Thomas son 1864 age 7 Bathgate, Linlithgow
BEVERIDGE William son 1866 age 5 Bathgate, Linlithgow

Please see if you can find them in 1881. Thanks.

And please see if you can find Janet MOODIE and spouse in 1851:

John McLAREN b. ?
Janet b. 1824 Dunfermline
Ann b. 1846
Jane b. 1852
James b. 1854

They married in Dunfermline but I don't know where the children were born.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hello crankypants,



Please see if you can find them in 1881. Thanks.

And please see if you can find Janet MOODIE and spouse in 1851:

John McLAREN b. ?
Janet b. 1824 Dunfermline
Ann b. 1846
Jane b. 1852
James b. 1854

They married in Dunfermline but I don't know where the children were born.

Thanks.

Dave

Hi Dave

The only 1851 Janet McLAREN I can find with daughter Ann
is a visitor with the Moodie's back on (post no.4)

1851 Scotland census
Civil Parish: Inverkeithing
Town: Milesmark
County: Fife
Address: Milesmark

MOODIE James 1795 age 56 Engineman Coal Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Ann 1797 age 54 Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Ann 1830 age 21 Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Betsy 1832 age 19 Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Robert 1834 age 17 Coal Miner Dunfermline, Fife
MOODIE Adam 1841 age 10 Scholar Dunfermline, Fife
MCLAREN Janet visitor 1826 age 25 Kackmanan
MCLAREN Anne visitor 1846 age 5 Kackmanan, Fife

Still in search of the BEVERIDGE family.

cheers
crankypants