Moore Family- Aston Birmingham

[richaj]

Hi

Can anyone please help with a birth for Margaret Gargan Father John Gargan. Margaret was born approx 1859 - she married Edward Moore - 1845. I cannot find a birth but I think she was born in Birmingham, Warwickshire.

I am trying to find the whereabouts of the Moore family. The last address I have for them is Coleman Street, Aston Birmingham.

Edward Moore b1859 Margaret Moore b 1859ish William Henry Moore b 1880 and Sarah Ann Moore b 1888

I have Edwardm Margaret and William in 1881 and william and Sarah in 1901 with William's wife Laura (nee Kimberley). I know that Margaret died in 1894 and Edward in 1905. So what happened to them in 1889.

Can anyone help please

Regards

Julie

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Julie,

Welcome to FHUK.

Where were they born?

 

[richaj]

Hi Julie,

Welcome to FHUK.

Where were they born?

Hi

They were all born in Birmingham. It is just weird why they are all missing from the 1891 census. I would just like to fill in the gap. I went to Birmingham
the other day and searched the archives there but I have still drawn a blank.

I did however, find a coroners report for my Gt Grandad Edward Moore in 1905.

.

 

[richaj]

Hi Julie,

Welcome to FHUK.

Where were they born?

All born in Birmingham.

I do not know where to go from here. They just seem to have disappeared n between 1881 & 1889

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Julie,

I did find out where they were born, but still couldnt find them in 1891.
They could be mistransribed under another name, What was Margarets maiden name?

 

[richaj]

Hi Julie,

I did find out where they were born, but still couldnt find them in 1891.
They could be mistransribed under another name, What was Margarets maiden name?

Margaret was called Gargan but it could have been spelt different on some sites. Margaret died in 1894 her sister Frances Gargan was present.

Thank you for your help

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Julie,

I dont know if this is anything, but found a Fanny Gargin in 1891 lodger
born abt 1861 Birmingham, also lodging is a Edward and Margaret Mower
but they have a son Edward age 6.

Fanys occ is a thimble maker, Margarets is pearl button maker and Edwards (looks liked it has been ditto'd) pearl button maker umemployed, what do you think?

Edwards age 30 Margaret is 25 (age is a little bit out).

RG12
Piece 2389
Folio 93
Page 1

 

[richaj]

Hi Julie,

I dont know if this is anything, but found a Fanny Gargin in 1891 lodger
born abt 1861 Birmingham, also lodging is a Edward and Margaret Mower
but they have a son Edward age 6.

Fanys occ is a thimble maker, Margarets is pearl button maker and Edwards (looks liked it has been ditto'd) pearl button maker umemployed, what do you think?

Edwards age 30 Margaret is 25 (age is a little bit out).

RG12
Piece 2389
Folio 93
Page 1

Thanks this is worth investigating

Regards

Julie

 

[richaj]

Hi Julie

This does look like these people are the ones that I am looking for. Frances Gargan (Fanny) was present at Margarets death in 1894.

The children mentioned on the 1891 census do not appear to be Edward & Margarets. I will have to have a good look around now to find them. I wonder who they were living with.

I went to Birmingham last Friday and managed to get a coroners report for Edward. He was only 48 and died from a stroke. His Daughter my Gran also died from the same thing age 58.

Sorry I am wittering.

Thank you very much for your help. You have resolved a mystery that I have been puzzling with for the past three years.

Best Wishes

Julie

 

[juliejtp]

Theres a Wm H Moore born abt 1880 Birmingham Nephew.

1891

Class RG12
Piece 2387
Folio 47
Page 13

 

[richaj]

Thank you so much for this. You are so kind. I think that I have looked and looked for the Moore's so much that I am missing things.

Best Wishes

Julie

 

[richaj]

Hello again.

I am still trying to trace the Gargans but without much success. I do know that my Gt Grandmothers father was called John Gargan. He is named on her wedding certificate in 1877 but I cannot find him on any census. The name Gargan has been miss Spelt so many times. I cannot keep a track of it but I think Gargan is the correct way because it is on the wedding cert. I can't find Frances (Fanny) Gargan on a census except for 1891 where she is a lodger in the same house as my Gt Grandparents Edward Moore and Margaret Moore (nee Gargan). Does anyone have any ideas please??

Thanks

Julie

 

[juliejtp]

Hi,

A possibilty for the Gargans in 1871 (spelt Gorgan)

Civil parish Birmingham
RD Birmingham
Sub RD St Mary

John Rochford head age age 40 occ brush maker born Birmingham
Ellen wife age 38 born Ireland
Mary Gorgan lodger age 50 occ chairwoman born Ireland
Eliza Gorgan lodgers dau age 16 occ spoon? polisher born Birmingham
Fanny Gorgan age lodgers dau 10 born Birmingham
Margaret age 7 lodgers dau born Birmingham

Class RG10
Piece 3115
Folio 19
Page 32

Marys age looks like 50 to me but it has been transcribed as 80.

 

[juliejtp]

In 1881 there is a Fanny Duguran servant born abt 1859 Birmingham, perhaps her name has been misheard by the enumerator or she may not be the one you are looking for.

Class RG11
Piece 2995
Folio 9
Page 12

 

[richaj]

Thanks again. You are kind to look for me. I just wish that I could find John Gargan.


Regards

Julie

 

[richaj]

Hello again.

I have found a death for a Fanny Gargan in 1897. This would make her born around 1865. I think she was my Gt Grandma's Sister. I am having trouble finding her birth. As far as I know it should be in Warwickshire. Can anyone help please.

Thanks

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Julie,

Whats Johns occupation on his daughters marriage certificate?

 

[richaj]

Hi

Sorry that I did not reply last night. I had to log off - my eyes were sore. I am the computer all day at work and I had been on a little too long.

I am at work now so I am unable to look up John's occupation - I will however take a look at it tonight and will let you know.

Many thanks

Julie

 

[richaj]

Hello

Sorry that I could not get back to you sooner but I was at work.

John Gargan was a Labourer - thats all it says.


Thanks

Julie

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Julie,

No luck at finding the birth registrations. Just wondering do you think this name Gaghagan sounds like Gargan/Gorgan?.