Moses Shaw his marriage or marriages

[Maisy]

I need help please with this query and I am confused. Elizabeth Shaw born 1807/08 was the daughter of Moses b. 1785/6 and Sarah Shaw. She was baptised in St. Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire. She was one of at least twelve children all born between 1799- 1819 to Moses and Sarah. All baptised in the same church.

I have found two marriages for Moses one in 1796 in Clent, Worcestershire to Sarah Walker. The other in 1804 in Kingswinford, Worcestershire to Sarah Griffin.

It looks like three children with Sarah Walker they were Rhoda bp.1799, Sarah bp.1801 and Kerenhappuch bp.1803. The other nine children were perhaps with Sarah Griffin including Elizabeth Shaw.

The 1841 census gives the ages of Moses and Sarah as 50 and his occupation is nailor. The 1851 census states aged 65, a nailor. I realise ages were rounded down in 1841. But that would make Moses and Sarah very young when they had their first child in 1799.

In the 1841 census Moses and Sarah are neighbours to their daughter Elizabeth and husband Samuel Rhodes.

Anyone have any ideas? Am I looking at two different Moses Shaw or is this the same man married twice.

Thank you in advance.

 

[ptjw7]

Read this https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/862548
Says in 1800's marriage age for males is 14 and 12 for females.

 

[Maisy]

Thank you, I've looked at and read the link. Useful information and I'll keep it for reference while keeping an open mind to the marriage with Sarah Walker.

Robyn.

 

[Ellie7]

1841 Census? age 50?
Married 1796?

 

[Ellie7]

Can't see many boys? marrying at age 14 .Fathers permission would have to be given Father would be losing a son's earnings


https://www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victorians/articles/gender-roles-in-the-19th-century

 

[emeltee]

FreeReg has two Moses Shaws born in Dudley, one in 1773 to Aaron and Susanna. This Moses died 1814. The second Moses was born 1786/7 to Joseph and Ann. He died 1868.

It is most likely that the first marriage is the Moses born 1773 and the second marriage is the Moses born 1786/7

 

[Ellie7]

Thanks Emeltree,saved me the trouble to look up FreeReg.

 

[Maisy]

Can anyone see Moses and Sarah in the 1861 Census? There is a death for Moses in 1860 in Dudley as well as the death in 1868 Dudley aged 83. Thank you emeltee and Ellie7. So there were two Moses Shaw.

 

[emeltee]

According to thr GRO Index the Moses Shaw who died 1860 was aged 34.

 

[Maisy]

Thank you emeltee. It's the death then in 1868 Dudley. Any sign of Moses and Sarah in the 1861 Census?

 

[emeltee]

Can't see either of the right age.

 

[Maisy]

Thank you for looking.