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My Grandfather's 1st Marriage - I have the certificate, did he have children?

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I wonder if anyone can help me? My Grandfather married for the 1st time in 1904 at 21 years old. I have this marriage certificate. He then re-married my grandmother in the 1940's. He was 31 years older than my Grandmoether being born in 1882, whilst my grandmother was born in 1913.

I know he had children from his 1st Marriage in 1904, and these would be 1/2 brothers or sisters to my father, but he never talked about this to my father, and my grandmother never talked about this to my father either. My Grandfather died in 1968 when my father was only 20, and my grandmother passed away in 2006.

As I said, I have obtained the marriage certificate of my Grandfather's marriage to his first wife in 1904. I also have obtained a copy of my grandfather's birth certificate in 1882.

I am quite new to this game, and wondering if there is any way that I can obtain the details of the children my Grandfather had with his 1st wife? No census details are available past 1901 (even though I understand that some details of the 1911 census are now available) so I can't go down that route. Is there any other way that I can find out how many children my grandfather had during his 1st marriage, and what their names were. There is a good chance that most of his children from the 1st marriage in 1904 have passed away, but i would also like to find out if they had any children, which would be my 1/2 1st Cousins - if there is such a thing!

If more details are needed, I am more than willing to post them, but I was wondering firstly if you had any tips on the route I should take to obtain these details.
 
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I'm not sure if I need to post the details or not, but here goes:

My Grandfather's name was - Frederick Josiah Francis
Born July 22 1882 - Bow, Middlesex

His 1st wife was called Emily Frances Calvert

They married on July 18th 1904 at the Parish Church in the Parish of St Mary (St Mark? St Marsh?) Victoria Park in the County of London (POPLAR)

I am looking for a way of finding out how many children they had, and what their names were... :confused:
 
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Hi

I have been able to find one child using FreeBMD:

JAS 1911 FRANCIS Shirley V (Calvert) Poplar 1c 923

Unfortunately this was the first quarter that the mother's maiden name was listed in the index and there were too many children surnamed Francis born in Poplar between 1904 and then to be certain which belonged to your ancestors.

The alternative (if you are able to get to the relevant records office) is to try searching the baptism registers, initially for the parish in which they got married and then for neighbouring parishes. This should give you details of any children, and also possibly details of your grandfather's occupation and where they lived.
 
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I'm not sure if I need to post the details or not, but here goes:

My Grandfather's name was - Frederick Josiah Francis
Born July 22 1882 - Bow, Middlesex

His 1st wife was called Emily Frances Calvert

They married on July 18th 1904 at the Parish Church in the Parish of St Mary (St Mark? St Marsh?) Victoria Park in the County of London (POPLAR)

I am looking for a way of finding out how many children they had, and what their names were... :confused:
Good evening,
My name is John Francis and my grandfather was one Fredrick Josiah Francis.My late father,one Shirley Vere Francis was born in 1911 and had one brother,also named Frederick .Their mother was definitely Emily,who died i believe in 1969.Would be pleased to hear from you further to catch up with more news of my late grandfather,who i understand was a very astute businessman in the 1930's.
Kind regards,
John Francis
 
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Hi bonheddur,
Frederick Josiah Francis lost contact with his late sons' family back in the19welcome 60's and any subsequent information you can provide about his later life would be of great interest.
Kind regards,
John Francis.
 

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Another child for Frederick and Emily.

1905 - Victoria Park St Mark - Tower Hamlets
Frederick William Francis
Father Frederick Josiah Francis occ stenographer?
Mother Emily Frances Francis
Born 7 May 1905
Baptised 28 May 1905
 

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Please contact me at Sorry as per forum policy your email address has been removed. Once you have made 3 posts you will be able to use the private message feature and pass sensitive info this way - dave
to discuss this further!!!!! Thanks:)


I wonder if anyone can help me? My Grandfather married for the 1st time in 1904 at 21 years old. I have this marriage certificate. He then re-married my grandmother in the 1940's. He was 31 years older than my Grandmoether being born in 1882, whilst my grandmother was born in 1913.

I know he had children from his 1st Marriage in 1904, and these would be 1/2 brothers or sisters to my father, but he never talked about this to my father, and my grandmother never talked about this to my father either. My Grandfather died in 1968 when my father was only 20, and my grandmother passed away in 2006.

As I said, I have obtained the marriage certificate of my Grandfather's marriage to his first wife in 1904. I also have obtained a copy of my grandfather's birth certificate in 1882.

I am quite new to this game, and wondering if there is any way that I can obtain the details of the children my Grandfather had with his 1st wife? No census details are available past 1901 (even though I understand that some details of the 1911 census are now available) so I can't go down that route. Is there any other way that I can find out how many children my grandfather had during his 1st marriage, and what their names were. There is a good chance that most of his children from the 1st marriage in 1904 have passed away, but i would also like to find out if they had any children, which would be my 1/2 1st Cousins - if there is such a thing!

If more details are needed, I am more than willing to post them, but I was wondering firstly if you had any tips on the route I should take to obtain these details.
 
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