NANCARROW family

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Edward c. 21 Apr 1799 Redruth, Cornwall
- parents NANCARROW & Elizth

Edward NANCARROW & Anne MORE
Marriage: 28 Mar 1824 Illogan, Cornwall

Ann died in 1839.

1841
H0107/143/ 15 folio 20 page 32 15
Redruth Penwith
Cornwall
Edward Nancarrow age 40 Copper miner
John age 15 Copper Miner
Thomas age 14 Tin Copper
Maryann age 11
Eliza age 6
Edward age 4
all born in county

3 children ended up in Victoria. Mary Ann died in 1842 and Edward died ??

John c. 25 Dec 1824 Redruth, Cornwall
Died 1 Oct 1826 Extracted record
Edward NANCARROW & Anne

A search for other John b. 1824 +/- 5 Cornwall with father = Edward yields only the one. So I can't explain that death on the extracted record.

Marriages Jun 1847
Nancarrow John Redruth 9 306
MATHEWS Jane Redruth 9 306

Death in Victoria:

Surname: NANCARROW
Given Names: John
Event: D
Spouse Surname/Father: Edward
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother:
Age: 31
Birth Place: CORN
Death Place:
Year: 1855
Reg Number: 3173

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Thomas c. 10 Jul 1827 Redruth, Cornwall
Edward NANCARROW & Ann

Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871
NANCARROW THOMAS 22 OCT 1848 BLONDE 4 87

Arrived 15 Oct 1848
Thomas 22 Miner Redruth Cornwall Wesleyan Read

Died in Victoria.

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Eliza b. 1834 c. 17 Feb 1835 Redruth, Cornwall
Edward NANCARROW & Ann

Marriage and death in Victoria:

Surname: SHARPE
Given Names: Eliza
Father: Sharpe Edward [NANCARROW]
Mother: Elizth MOORE [Ann]
Death Place: THORNBURY
Age: 99
Year: 1932
Reg Number: 626
Event: D

A few things wrong on that death reg but mother's maiden name is correct.

 

[DaveHam9]

I don't know what happened to Edward senior or Edward junior. I don't know if they both died in England or if junior also made it to Australia or if both of them did. I don't even know if Edward senior remarried after Ann died on 28 Sep 1839 at Redruth.

I have a possible arrival in South Australia for John.

I have a definite arrival for Thomas in 1848.

I have no arrival for Eliza. Married in Victoria on 15 Apr 1852.


Not this one:

Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871
Eliza Nancarrow 13 - Oct 1848 'Blonde' 4 96

Arrived 15 Oct 1848
Eliza 13 Ely [Elie] Fifeshire Ch of England Read

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Not sure if this marriage is for Edward jnr.

1860 - Liskard

Bride Johanna Demstone (or Dunston) Down.

The last siting for this couple together is 1871. They have a daughter Elizabeth E Nancarrow who is listed as niece to a John Down (transcribed as Donn) in 1891. There is a death for a Joanna Nancarrow 1890 district Newton Abbot Devonshire, John Down and family are living in the civil parish of Stoke Damarel, Devon.

I will go and have another look on the 1881 census.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Found this lady Jemmina Nancarrow in 1881. Name has been transribed as Jemmina (looks like Joanna) and Elizabeth is definately Emma on the image.

CP - East Stonehouse - RD East Stonehouse - Sub RD East Stonehouse

Jemmina Nancarrow age 44 wife/mar occ dressmaker born Callington Cornwall
Emma daughter age 11 born Gunnislake

Class RG11
Piece 2203
Folio 41
Page 77

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Heres Edward snr in 1851.

CP Illogan - RD Reduth - Sub RD Reduth

Edward Nancarrow head age 50 occ copper miner born Illogan
Elizabeth wife age 38 born St Agnes
John S son age 15 occ copper miner born St. Agnes
Edward son age 14 occ copper miner born Illogan
Jane Stephens stepdaughter age 13 born St. Agnes
Elizabeth Stephens stepdaughter age 9 born Illogan
Ann Stephens stepdaughter age 7 born Illogan

Class H0107
Piece 1915
Folio 425
Page 29

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

There is a marriage for a Edward Nancarrow in 1851 district Redruth - Jan/Feb/Mar. There isn't a Elizabeth Stephens listed but only 3 brides and 4 grooms.

Just had a look on the marriage pages it looks like there is an Elizabeth Stephens marriage the district looks like Redruth.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

Thank you very much.

Looking at 1851 with John S there is no John who fits in 1841 and no age for Edward junior, or are they both step-sons?

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Just edited the 1851 census Edwards age is 14. I missed it off.

 

[DaveHam9]

Possible

John STEPHENS
Christening: 7 JUN 1835 Saint Agnes Near Truro, Cornwall, England
Father: JOHN STEPHENS
Mother: ELIZABETH

JANE HARRY STEVENS
Christening: 7 JUL 1836 Saint Agnes Near Truro, Cornwall, England
Father: JOHN STEVENS
Mother: ELIZABETH

 

[DaveHam9]

So we have both senior and junior in 1851 and a death for junior 1861 - 1871.

Oh, spouse is not a widow in 1881.

The only one I can find 1851 - 1861:

Deaths Jun 1859
NANCARROW Edward Liskeard 5c 40

An no deaths for an Edward at all in RD Redruth from 1851 onwards.

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't see a death in Devon either 1871 onwards for an Edward.

Nothing fits for either senior or junior anywhere in England.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

There is a death in Liskeard/1859 for an Edward Nancarrow, no age given.

 

[DaveHam9]

I noticed that one Julie. I also noticed a baptism in Camborne in 1837 for an Edward son of John & Grace.

I found one tree that has the three children in Victoria with their deaths but no shipping details. All they have for the family is the 1841 census.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Came across a Mr Ed. Nancarrow born abt 1838 on the incoming passenger list for Jan 1892. Sailing from New York arrival Liverpool, ships name Wyoming.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Julie.

We have to consider what happened to Edward son of John & Grace.

Also the Liskeard connection with the death in 1859 there and the 1860 marriage. If that is the death of Edward senior then it adds strength to it being the marriage for junior.

 

[DaveHam9]

1851
Piece: HO107/1899 Place: Alternon -Cornwall Enumeration District: 4c
Civil Parish: Stoke Climsland Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 589 Page: 26 Schedule: 90
Address: Holmbush

Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
NANCARROW John Head M M 46 Miner Cornwall - Stoke Climsland
NANCARROW Grace Wife M F 40 Cornwall - Stoke Climsland
NANCARROW John Son S M 18 Miner Cornwall - Stoke Climsland
NANCARROW Edward Son - M 15 Miner Cornwall - Stoke Climsland
NANCARROW William Son - M 12 Miner Cornwall - Stoke Climsland
NANCARROW Elizabeth Dau - F 2 Cornwall - Stoke Climsland
NANCARROW Jane Dau - F 8m Cornwall - Stoke Climsland
PUCKEY Elizabeth Visitr W F 48 Cornwall - Tywardreath

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm looking at the map of Cornwall.

Liskeard is far from Redruth.

Now where is Stoke Climsland? East of Liskeard.

A real shortage of deaths in England that fit any of these three Edwards.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Hav'nt got any further finding Edward son of John and Grace.

Just wondering if Edward jnr did go abroad. On the 1861 census a Elizabeth Stephens nee Nancarrow has her husband (possibily a James Stephens) as miner in Americia.

 

[juliejtp]

Stoke Climsland comes under the registration district of Launceston.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hi Dave,

Hav'nt got any further finding Edward son of John and Grace.

Just wondering if Edward jnr did go abroad. On the 1861 census a Elizabeth Stephens nee Nancarrow has her husband (possibily a James Stephens) as miner in Americia.

Now I'm really confused.

Elizabeth STEPHENS aged 9 in 1851 is married to a STEPHENS by 1861?