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NEWBERY family of Hampton Court

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Hello,

Thomas Newington NEWBERY b. abt 1779 Hampton Court d. Mar Q 1852 St Geo Southwark

marriage 1: 13 Oct 1805 St Bride Fleet St, London, England

Ann Ledger(s) BENFIELD b. ? d. bef 1831 ?

Two children of Thomas' first marriage

THOMAS RICE BINFEILD NEWBERY
Birth: 23 Jan 1807
Christening: 22 Feb 1807 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
Father: Thomas NEWBERY
Mother: Ann

SARAH NEWBERY
Christening: 14 May 1809 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
Father: Thomas NEWBERY
Mother: Ann

There should be a third:

Frederick William NEWBERY b. ? c. ? 1 May 1814 ? Hampton Court ?

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marriage 2: 1830 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England ?

Elizabeth MOORE b. ? d. ?

A child of this marriage

Martha Elizabeth NEWBERY
Birth: 7 Apr 1831
Christening: 15 Apr 1832 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London
Father: Thomas Newington NEWBERY
Mother: Elizabeth

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marriage 3: ??

Susannah MOSS b. ? d. ?

Something does not add up:

Marriages Dec 1845
NEWBERY Thomas Newington St geo southk 4 499

Marriages Sep 1850
Moss Susannah Geo St Southk 4 530

1841 census
Gray Street St George the Martyr Southwark
Thomas Newbery 55 Labourer not born Surrey
Susan Newbery 45 not born Surrey
Martha Newbery 10 not born Surrey

1851 census
Duke Street St George the Martyr Southwark
Thomas Newbury 64 Head Married Coal and Corn Merchant Hampton Court Surrey
Susannah Newbury 55 Wife Married Gosport
Richard Moss 32 Son-in-law Unmarried Waterman Deptford Kent

That would actually mean stepson.

I thought Hampton Court was Middlesex.
Hampton parish registers are at the London Metropolitan Archives. They have no coverage in IGI.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hi Dave

Found a burial for a Ann NEWBERY in 1828.

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
Name: Ann Nèwbery
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 27 Jan 1828
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1779
Parish: Saint Saviour
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex
Abode: CASTLE COURT

cheers
crankypants
 
Hi Dave

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Thomas Newington Newbery
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1790
Spouse Name: Susanna Fruit Motz
Spouse Age: 45
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Nov 1845
Parish: St George the Martyr
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Newbery
Spouse Father Name: Michael Motz

cheers
crankypants
 
Hi Dave

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Thoms Newington Newbery
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Moore
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 26 Dec 1830
Parish: St Mary, Whitechapel
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets

cheers
crankypants
 
Hello crankypants,

:D Thank you very much. Ok, I can understand MOTZ being written down as MOSS. The image seems to have Michael PENNELL ? - Waterman. It was Susanna's 2nd marriage so her maiden name is PENNELL ??

I wonder if Richard MOTZ's baptism can be found around 1819?

Regards,

Dave
 
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Hi Dave

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Susanna Fruit Motz
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1800
Spouse Name: Thomas Newington Newbery
Spouse Age: 55
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Nov 1845
Parish: St George the Martyr
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Michael Motz
Spouse Father Name: John Newbery

cheers
crankypants
 
Hello crankypants,

Curious:

Richard Moss 32 Son-in-law Unmarried Waterman Deptford Kent

He is also a 'waterman' so is Pennell a middle name ? Hmmm - PENNELL is a Cornish name.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

I was silly enough to put 'Susanna Fruit" into Google :2fun:

I'm not finding a PENNELL - MOTZ/MOSS marriage or a birth for Richard or a birth for Susanna.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

The 1851 census says Susanna was born in Gosport which is in Hampshire. That might help.

Children of Thomas & Ann:

Thomas Rice Binfield NEWBERY b. 23 Jan 1807 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey

Sarah NEWBERY c. 14 May 1809 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey, England
Barbara ??

Married ? died ?


Daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth:

Martha Elizabeth NEWBERY b. 7 Apr 1831 Bethnal Green

married ? died ?

Please see if you can find anything. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave
 
Hello crankypants,

John NEWBERY b. ? d. 1832

married 1758 ? Middlesex [ that date is way too early ]

Sarah Newington GILES b. ? d. aft 1841 census [ listed as aged 80 in 1841 census ]

1841
Sarah Newbery 80 Ind. not born in county
John Kensett 50 not born in county
Mary Niton 25 female servant born in county

The name Kensett appears as a middle name in a great grandchild. John might be the spouse of John & Sarah's daughter Deborah.

Thomas Newington NEWBERY b. abt 1779 is the eldest of 6 so the marriage date is way out.

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave
 
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Hi Dave

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: John Newbery
Spouse Name: Sarah Lewington Giles (image is Newington)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Apr 1782
Parish: St Mary, Hampton
County: Middlesex
Borough: Richmond Upon Thames

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crankypants
 
Hi Dave

Name: John Newbery
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 2 Nov 1832
Age: 80
Estimated birth year: abt 1752
Death Date: 02 Nov 1832
Parish: St Mary, Hampton
Borough: Richmond Upon Thames
County: Surrey
Abode: HAMPTON COURT

cheers
crankypants
 
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. Lots more stuff seems to be available now than two years ago when I started on this family. Which is great :D it means I'll carry on with all 6 children.

I wonder if Thomas was born in 1779 before the marriage ???

I don't know the order of the children born after Thomas Newington:

Mary - unmarried
Barbara - unmarried
Sarah Bachelor married SWALLING
Deborah probably married John KENSETT
James - married ?

Regards,

Dave
 
Hi Dave

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Swalling
Spouse Name: Sarah Bachelor Newbery
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 May 1804
Parish: St Alphege, Greenwich
County: Middlesex
Borough: Greenwich

Included this one just in case.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Sarah Kensett
Spouse Name: John Newbery
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Jun 1800
Parish: St George, Hanover Square
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster

cheers
crankypants
 
Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. Seems Deborah didn't marry KENSETT. I didn't know there was a son John ??? He is not listed in John Snr's will. Also there might be another child making a total of 8: Amelia.

Let's work on one branch first:

Deaths Dec 1847
Swalling Sarah Batchelor Greenwich 5 185

I don't have a death for spouse William. Two children with Sarah in 1841:

1841 census
Greenwich Kent
Sarah Swalling 50 Ind. born Kent *** so born abt 1887-91
Maria Swalling 20 born Kent
John Swalling 15 Carpenter born Kent

Regards,

Dave
 
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Hello crankypants,

Sarah must be older to have married in 1804.

ANN RAABE SWALLING
Christening: 12 Jul 1807 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent
Father: WILLM. SWALLING
Mother: SARAH
and

JANE NEWBURY SWALLING
Christening: 10 Aug 1809 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent
Father: WM. SWALLING
Mother: SARAH

plus a further 4 children.

Regards,

Dave
 
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Hello crankypants,

Now I'm confused. When did Sarah Newington (nee GILES) die? Did John marry a 2nd time and there is NO son John ?


Besides John's Prerogative Court of Canterbury will there is another Newbery will in the same year in the same place.

Will of Amelia Newbery otherwise Newberry, Spinster of Hampton , Middlesex 30 March 1832 PROB 11/1797. ??

Regards,

Dave
 
Hi Dave

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
Name: Sarah Bachelor Swalling
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 13 Dec 1847
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1784
Parish: Saint Alfege
Borough: Greenwich
County: Middlesex

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: William Swalling
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 25 Aug 1815
Father's Name: William Swalling
Mother's Name: Sarah Swalling
Parish: St Alfege
Borough: Greenwich
County: Middlesex

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Maria Swalling
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 16 Nov 1817
Father's Name: William Swalling
Mother's Name: Sarah Swalling
Parish: St Alfege
Borough: Greenwich
County: Middlesex

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Frances Sarah Swalling
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 8 Oct 1820
Father's Name: William Swalling
Mother's Name: Sarah Swalling
Parish: St Alfege
Borough: Greenwich
County: Middlesex

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: John Gustavas Newbury Swalling
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 12 Jan 1823
Father's Name: William Swalling
Mother's Name: Sarah Swalling
Parish: St Alfege
Borough: Greenwich
County: Middlesex

William SWALLING not on burial index

cheers
crankypants
 
Hello crankypants,


Thank you very much.

Here they all are:

1. MARIA SWALLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 NOV 1817 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England *** 10 or 16 ?
2. WILLIAM SWALLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 AUG 1815 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England
3. JOHN GUSTAVUS NEWBURY SWALLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 14 MAY 1822
4. JOHN GUSTAVUS NEWBURY SWALLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 JAN 1823 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England
5. ANN RAABE SWALLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 12 JUL 1807 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England
6. FRANCES SARAH SWALLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 23 JUN 1820
7. FRANCES SARAH SWALLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 OCT 1820 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England
8. JANE NEWBURY SWALLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 AUG 1809 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England

Regards,

Dave
 
Hi Dave

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980
Name: Sarah Newbery
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 7 Jun 1843
Age: 86
Estimated birth year: abt 1757
Death Date: 07 Jun 1843
Parish: St Mary, Hampton
Borough: Richmond Upon Thames
County: Surrey

cheers
crankypants
 
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