NORMAN family

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

1851
HO107 Piece 1786 Folio 465 Page 9
Civil Parish: Saffron Walden
County: Essex
Registration District: Saffron Walden
Address: Sewers End, Saffron Walden
KITTLE, John Head Mar 43 Grocer Peckham Surrey
KITTLE, Lydia Wife Mar 47 Walden Essex
KITTLE, John Son 12 Scholar Walden Essex
NORMAN, Charles Visitor Mar 36 Tailor Isleham Cambridgeshire

1851
HO107 Piece 1786 Folio 49 Page 22
Civil Parish: Newport
County: Essex
Registration District: Saffron Walden
Address: Church End, Newport
NORMAN, Elizabeth Head Mar 36 Milliner & Dressmaker Cambridge Cambridgeshire
NORMAN, Harriet Dau 14 Newport Essex
NORMAN, Charles Son 12 Apprentice Newport Essex
NORMAN, Anna Dau 10 Scholar Newport Essex
NORMAN, Luther Son 5 Scholar Newport Essex
NORMAN, William Son 3 Scholar Newport Essex

I'd like a look up please for Charles and Elizabeth in 1861.

Thanks.

Dave

 

[horse]

1861 Census:
Charles Norman
Age: 46
Born abt 1815 Isleham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Newport
County/Island: Essex
RD: Saffron Walden
Sub-RD: Newport
ED: 7
RG 9; Piece: 1120; Folio: 103; Page: 27

Charles Norman 46
Elizabeth Norman 46 [b. abt. 1815 Cambs.]
William Norman 12
Augusta Norman 7
Mary Ann Norman 4
Isaac Reynolds 19 [Assistant]
[All offspring b. Newport, Essex]

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Death of daughter Harriet in Australia:

Death 23099/1919 HOWARD HARRIETT L - WILLIAM - ANN - CROOKWELL

Right death but both parents seem to be wromng on the index.


1858 Marriages solemnized at Trinity Church in the Parish of Upper Chelsea in the County of Middlesex
No 326 December 28
John Howard Full Bachelor Labourer Weston Colvil Cambridge John Howard Labourer
Harriet Lucy Norman Full Spinster - Upper Chelsea Charles Norman Tailor
Married in the Parish Church after Banns by me Wm Scott Moncrieff
Both signed
Witnesses: William Williams, Rachel Thomson


A tree has Harriet's mother as a Lucy JONES.

 

[DaveHam9]

Assisted to NSW
HOWARD John 22 Palmyra 1859 Sydney and/or Newcastle and wife Reel 2139, [4/4795]
HOWARD Harriet 22 Palmyra 1859 Sydney and/or Newcastle and husband Reel 2139, [4/4795]

Departed Plymouth 13 Feb 1859 Arrived Sydney 27 May 1859
Master William Jamieson Surgeon William Kidman

John Farm labourer Cambridgeshire Wesleyan Both
Harriet Wife Essex Wesleyan Both


No 2nd agents reel to look up to get parents.

 

[DaveHam9]

It would seem Charles NORMAN married Elizabeth UNKNOWN not Lucy JONES.

Did they both end up in Australia?

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

Death of daughter Harriet in Australia:

Death 23099/1919 HOWARD HARRIETT L - WILLIAM - ANN - CROOKWELL

Right death but both parents seem to be wromng on the index.


1858 Marriages solemnized at Trinity Church in the Parish of Upper Chelsea in the County of Middlesex
No 326 December 28
John Howard Full Bachelor Labourer Weston Colvil Cambridge John Howard Labourer
Harriet Lucy Norman Full Spinster - Upper Chelsea Charles Norman Tailor
Married in the Parish Church after Banns by me Wm Scott Moncrieff
Both signed
Witnesses: William Williams, Rachel Thomson


A tree has Harriet's mother as a Lucy JONES.

I remember seeing a Lucy Jones when I was looking earlier.

 

[horse]

One tree has Charles Norman = Elizabeth Allard... Pallot's MI has that as James Norman = Elizabeth A.

Looks like a crossed wire or two here.

Time against me, will look later.

Geoff

 

[horse]

Just checked the St Andrew the Less and Chesterton PR's

8 Aug 1833 Charles Norman & Elizabeth Allard, mar.

Elizabeth, if the same one is there in 51 & 61

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I have the right death and it seems Harriet's parents are not William and Ann as per reg.

The marriage has her father as Charles a tailor. Several trees have her mother as a Lucy JONES. Harriet's middle name is Lucy.

Do I have the wrong family in 1851 in post #1?

I've posted another 1841 census topic.

Dave